Can Naruto get even stronger?

[ninjabot]

Would you respect a guy that not only beat you, the strongest Bijuu, to the ground, but proved that it isn't a child anymore, he stared you down, is fighting for himself, his friends and even you all by himself, wanting to stop the war and ending all the hate, yours included, while fighting against the strongest foes the world probably has ever seen since the Juubi, while wanting to save all the other Bijuus?

Respect=/=Like. So even if Kurama gained respect for Naruto, it shouldn't make him his buttbuddy. Secondy, hell no, if the fight went anything the way it did with Naruto and Kurama. If I'm kicking your ass and your mom grabs me by the ankles to help you out, then no, you most certainly do NOT get my respect. Ditto for your rapping stereotype buddy. If he's there helping you out along with mommy, that's still not getting props from me. Naruto fighting to save humans wouldn't/shouldn't mean a damn thing to Kurama either considering he hates them all with a passion. As for fighting strong opponents, none of those opponents rivaled Kurama himself in pure strength, so why he would care is beyond me.

All that said; no. No, nothing Naruto did in this war is directly responsible for Kurama agreeing to help Naruto, outside of the most recent fight.

I would, since the kid continued to prove with actions that he is serious about it as well. Kyuubi stopped taking chakra and gave chakra against Madara, but he chose to actively fuse their chakra together after Naruto saved Son, which is the "price" of Bijuu Mode.

Both of which were highly circumstantial situations. You can't say Kurama was falling in love with Naruto against Madara because he stated explicitly that if he had to choose between he and Madara, he'd choose Naruto. That doesn't mean he respects or likes him. It means he's less despicable to him than Madara. Kurama was protecting himself. Not Naruto. And for fusing chakra together: all of that happened in ONE fight with NO buildup outside of us as readers knowing that they'd work together eventually "just because." That's horrible, horrible story progression. Story progression, sure. But done terribly.

Remember the explanation that Hachibi gave Naruto about the risks of Chakra Mode and how to do the Bijuudama?
Both required full cooperation with the Bijuu. More foreshadowing than 2-3 chapters dedicated on the changing of Kyuubi's interactions with Naruto, same number of a perfect Jinchuuriki explaining Naruto how to achieve his maximum potential as Jinchuuriki, same number of chapter of foreshadowing Naruto needing to obtain that same power.

That explanation is exactly how we know that canonically, Kurama stopped devouring Naruto's chakra long before that lame fist bump fiasco. The fact that for multiple chapters readers kept asking "So... when is Naruto gonna die from chakra exhaustion?", yet it never happened. Simply having Chakra Mode active allows Kurama to eat Naruto's chakra; not just using jutsu with his chakra. The fact that none of his clones naturally exploded from loss of chakra, and he himself didn't keel over and pass out from lack of chakra, is proof that Kurama wasn't eating his chakra.

We're also not saying there's no foreshadowing. We're saying it wasn't good, because it relied on fan assumption to fuel the expectation, not established character interactions. Not established canon. We knew the instant we found out Naruto had a bijuu within him that the majority of his powerups and strongest abilities will come from said bijuu. That's the reason people can accept it happening, because they expected it. Not because they were lead to believe in this change thanks to gradual respect from Kurama (especially since this respect didn't start rearing it's head until practically a month before the event at hand.

It's like if, the instant we saw Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan, someone started claiming 'Oh! That's foreshadowing! We KNOW Sasuke's gonna get the MS now because Itachi said "Return when you have the same eyes as me.'" Yes, we'd be right to make this rash assumption, but it wouldn't be based on events or actions Sasuke took to gain MS. It'd be because we already know that his power is Sharingan oriented and thus, his strongest power would also be Sharingan oriented.

Didn't make it quality foreshadowing though.

True, but that wasn't the merging of their chakra, but simply Kyuubi giving Naruto chakra to battle Madara.
Thank you for pointing it out again, quality foreshadowing

I wasn't attempting ot show the merging of Kurama and Naruto's chakra. I was simply proving that prior to the actual full-blown changes Kurama was showing, he was already aiding Naruto, so you can't blame it on foreshadowing. It happened as a plot device. It happened because Kishimoto needed it to.

[Naruto2011]

What I see a lot on this thread is people over exaggerating the relationship between and naruto. He is not a butt buddy, cheerleader, and all lovey dovey with naruto. Yes he rooted for naruto but his rooting is not an asspull, madara was going to control, so what else is he going to do? And yes people, people are known to change in a blink of an eye, from angry to happy and what not. Kuramas personality has shifted because he is finally letting it out and acknowedging all the circumstances naruto has overcame in the past, I don't see how you can call a change that was occurring internally within kurama overtime an asspull, when we have people gaining eye tech after eye tech, with no foreshadow or hint to the ability before hand but not having a problem with it

[BASED Shinigami]

^agreed latest example Izanami if that's not an asspull I don't know what is.

[Roman]

^agreed latest example Izanami if that's not an asspull I don't know what is.

Wait until you see what Sasuke's EMS ability will be. I bet my balls that it'll be the biggest asspull yet.

[hyper_megaman]

Wait until you see what Sasuke's EMS ability will be. I bet my balls that it'll be the biggest asspull yet.

what are you talking about

EMS itself doesn't unlock any new skills does it. it's just the standard MS skills, except your eyes don't degrade with spammage of them

izanagi and izanami are available to any sharingan user, not just the MS o nes

[MissingNin]

Do not forget about "THAT JUTSU" minato wanted for naruto to learn after he will gain control of 9 tails. We have totally no clue what it can be.
Besides i sense fuc!@#!@ massive power up from other bijus. He will probably reborn in to so6p and starts spaming all kind of techniques ...

[Uchiha_Blood]

Respect=/=Like. So even if Kurama gained respect for Naruto, it shouldn't make him his buttbuddy. Secondy, hell no, if the fight went anything the way it did with Naruto and Kurama. If I'm kicking your ass and your mom grabs me by the ankles to help you out, then no, you most certainly do NOT get my respect. Ditto for your rapping stereotype buddy. If he's there helping you out along with mommy, that's still not getting props from me. Naruto fighting to save humans wouldn't/shouldn't mean a damn thing to Kurama either considering he hates them all with a passion. As for fighting strong opponents, none of those opponents rivaled Kurama himself in pure strength, so why he would care is beyond me.

All that said; no. No, nothing Naruto did in this war is directly responsible for Kurama agreeing to help Naruto, outside of the most recent fight.

You purposefully missed the point, and also as Naruto2011 well said, you are overexaggerating, Kyuubi is Naruto's fanboy, buttbuddy or bff because he bumped fist with him?

Also respect may not equals like, but considering that Kyuubi respect Naruto so much to compare him to Rikudou Sennin it isn't all that unreasonable for him to wanting to be a partner to someone that bested him, and that doesn't want to submit him to his will.

So Sasuke too is Naruto's buttbuddy because he respects their promise enough not to go on a killing spree on Konoha?

Itachi was Nagato's buttbuddy because he respected his abilities well enough to say that both of them were "unstoppable"?

Kisame was Itachi's buttbuddy because he respected Itachi as a person and collaborated with him?

Both of which were highly circumstantial situations. You can't say Kurama was falling in love with Naruto against Madara because he stated explicitly that if he had to choose between he and Madara, he'd choose Naruto. That doesn't mean he respects or likes him. It means he's less despicable to him than Madara. Kurama was protecting himself. Not Naruto. And for fusing chakra together: all of that happened in ONE fight with NO buildup outside of us as readers knowing that they'd work together eventually "just because." That's horrible, horrible story progression. Story progression, sure. But done terribly.

You are quite the drama king, are you not?
Also keep forgetting Naruto helping Son for 2 chapters, Hachibi berating Kyuubi and everything, please.
Either you don't know what an asspull is or simply you are letting your dislike talk for you. No one said that Kyuubi aiding Naruto is the most beautiful moment of character development of the manga, but pratically everyone who isn't biased towards Naruto said though that it was something not only expected, but justified too.
It is another matter entirely if it was done greatly or not, don't forget what kind of manga Naruto is, and where is published

That explanation is exactly how we know that canonically, Kurama stopped devouring Naruto's chakra long before that lame fist bump fiasco. The fact that for multiple chapters readers kept asking "So... when is Naruto gonna die from chakra exhaustion?", yet it never happened. Simply having Chakra Mode active allows Kurama to eat Naruto's chakra; not just using jutsu with his chakra. The fact that none of his clones naturally exploded from loss of chakra, and he himself didn't keel over and pass out from lack of chakra, is proof that Kurama wasn't eating his chakra.

We are saying the same thing over and over.
Yes, Kyuubi stopped doing it. Yes, he did so during the Bijuu fight, since Chakra Mode kept turning on and off.
Naruto's clone survived during the Madara fight since he was protected, and because Kyuubi supplied its chakra to fend off Madara, before that he was on the verge of dispelling

We're also not saying there's no foreshadowing. We're saying it wasn't good, because it relied on fan assumption to fuel the expectation, not established character interactions. Not established canon. We knew the instant we found out Naruto had a bijuu within him that the majority of his powerups and strongest abilities will come from said bijuu. That's the reason people can accept it happening, because they expected it. Not because they were lead to believe in this change thanks to gradual respect from Kurama (especially since this respect didn't start rearing it's head until practically a month before the event at hand.

Those above you called it an asspull, plain and simple, an asspull is a power literally pulled out of the character's ass.
That is the case of powers done without foreshadowing.
Again if it was done poorly or not is a matter of opinion, I can agree it was overly sappy, but again, remember where Naruto is published.
Something like that isn't uncommon at all in Naruto

I wasn't attempting ot show the merging of Kurama and Naruto's chakra. I was simply proving that prior to the actual full-blown changes Kurama was showing, he was already aiding Naruto, so you can't blame it on foreshadowing. It happened as a plot device. It happened because Kishimoto needed it to.

Everything happens as a plot device, like you well said in your previous post.
Itachi making Sasuke a squealing fan boy is a plot device to make Itachi look cool, the 5 kages doing shit against Madara is a plot device to further hype Madara, Naruto not shattering Tobi's mask and neck is a plot device to further hype Tobi, the Kumo's fodder Gum wall surviving a freakin' meteor is a plot device to further show Naruto's clone, Nagato being tricked by kunais (!) is a plot device to further hype Itachi, and I can continue endlessy.
Please remember that Sai and Kankuro took out Deidara and Sasori.
Sai and Kankuro

[M3J]

What you seem to ignore ( or simply don't want to aknowledge ) is that Kyuubi's change is reasonable, and it happened from the moment he was beaten by Naruto.
We can't say "Kyuubi had a 180° turn!!!!!!oneone1" if all Kyuubi's interactions with Naruto were:

Naruto: Kyuubi you bastard gimme chakra!
Kyuubi: You're a kid that can't do a thing without me, but you die I die so here

Naruto treated Kyuubi like everyone else, so Kyuubi treated Naruto like everyone else too.
Then Naruto goes and overpowers him without fancy eyes or wood, only with his own, raw brute force.
Granted he was aided, but how many characters could overpower Kyuubi?
Hashirama thanks to his Mokuton, Madara thanks to his Sharingan, and no one else. So it is pretty normal Kyuubi had respect for Naruto.
Also keep ignoring that Tobi wants to enslave Kyuubi, same as Madara and everyone else except Naruto, that wants him as a partner.
Also keep in mind that Naruto went to that conclusion after overcoming his hate and after knowing, with Bee and Hachibi, that Bijuus are more than pets, and that they too have a mind, soul etc.
Sappy, ok, but it is a theme of the manga

I am not ignoring it, the change is in no way reasonable at all. There was no hint at all about Kyuubi being a goddamn bunny. Every time we saw him, we saw him be malevolent and all. It makes absolutely no sense how it goes from willing to kill Naruto to his butt buddy in a day, or fist bump buddy. Kyuubi giving Naruto chakra like he did against Madara or Neji or even Sasuke makes sense, he's not being all "NARUTO I LOVE YOU HAVE MY CHAKRA", but "Pfft, you're weak, take some of my chakra." Kyuubi respecting Naruto is good, Kyuubi being like a pet bunny to Naruto is not good. That's my main issue with this.

It is 180 because Kyuubi didn't care about killing Naruto, he only cared about Naruto dying since Kyuubi would die too. I highly doubt Kyuubi would gain that much respect for Naruto when he's had help from Bee and Kushina, two outside help. At least Hashirama and Madara used their own power. I have no issue with this, because it establishes that Naruto's strong without making Kyuubi look that weak since Naruto needed help to beat it.

But the way it was shown, Kyuubi apparently got rid of all its hatred. This makes no sense considering what we've seen from it, if not know about it (characters' point of view). If it was hinted Kyuubi was a nice bunny, then this personality change wouldn't seem so bad.

Kyuubi knew Naruto cared about people and had the power to change people for the better. He's been in naruto for 16 years, but it takes one day for a complete personality change? Especially when he was willin to kill Naruto plenty of times? Makes no sense to me.

^agreed latest example Izanami if that's not an asspull I don't know what is.

It's not really an asspull. Ever since Izanagi, which is more of an asspull than Izanami, was introduced, it was a foreshadow for Izanami. Plus, Izanami still has a weakness, as Itachi said, so it can't be used in battles.

[Rikudou King]

1) Kyuubi's chakra recharges, also Hachibi commented on it at the beginning of the Naruto fight against the Edo Jinchuuriki, pissed that Kyuubi kept ignoring Naruto and sucking chakra.
After Naruto battling and everything always in chakra mode then Hachibi said that Naruto should be out of chakra by now.
2) When Naruto went up to Kyuubi and said to his face ( or eye ) that he wasn't a kid anymore and that he would take care of the war, Naruto was inside the cell
3) A 360° turn would mean he would be the same self lol also he had a change of attitude since Naruto beat him, and since Naruto stopped treating him as a pet. Again it may have been done poorly, yet it is there, it was foreshadowed.
Blame Kishi as a mangaka
4) Remember the Naruto fight against Madara
5) What? So Kyuubi's cooperation was foreshadowed after it happened? Are you serious? See all the links
6) Prove it, Hachibi noted it during the fight, and after Kyuubi cooperated with Naruto's clone against Madara, saying that he prefers to fight alonside him than being controlled by Madara.

1) Not the chakra that Naruto took, according to the Hachibi. And the Hachibi points out that logically Naruto should have already been in a critical condition at that point.
2) The Kyuubi was being held down by those tori gate seals.
3) Fine, my mistake. 180 turn. The only thing foreshadowed before that was Naruto taking the Kyuubi's power, which he did. Neither Minato or Jiraiya gave any hint at Naruto and the Kyuubi working side by side. Even the events with Kirabi didn't imply there was more then what Naruto had done.
4) Which happen afterward, so back to the main point.
5) There was no foreshadowing at all that the Kyuubi would have a change of heart and began to help Naruto. The links you provided and the events with Madara happen after the Kyuubi stop taking his chakra.
6) Before he began training to use the Bijuu Blast and went off to war, Naruto had already used "a ton of chakra" already. The Hachibi informed us that there was a limit to the amount that Naruto had taken and that logically, Naruto would die if he used it constantly. Yet what happen? He went on to remain in that mode to practice the Bijuu Blast over and over again, for most of the day before running off all night and into most of the day, and making dozens of clones, while in that form. All that happen before the incidents with Madara and Tobi where the Kyuubi may have had reasons to stop.

What I see a lot on this thread is people over exaggerating the relationship between and naruto. He is not a butt buddy, cheerleader, and all lovey dovey with naruto. Yes he rooted for naruto but his rooting is not an asspull, madara was going to control, so what else is he going to do? And yes people, people are known to change in a blink of an eye, from angry to happy and what not. Kuramas personality has shifted because he is finally letting it out and acknowedging all the circumstances naruto has overcame in the past, I don't see how you can call a change that was occurring internally within kurama overtime an asspull, when we have people gaining eye tech after eye tech, with no foreshadow or hint to the ability before hand but not having a problem with it

The Kyuubi went from hating Naruto enough to sacrifice his own body in order to attack to somehow always having faith in him. It was an asspull. The Kyuubi didn't need to be cheerful or have faith in Naruto to lend him aid, the Kyuubi could have remained antagonistic and still given aid, as shown during VotE. Especially since it goes against what we were shown earlier about the Kyuubi not even considering Naruto the real one and being literally a mass of malevolence.

The reason there's little issue with the eye techniques is because there's a cost to them, ensuring they're limited.

[Naruto2011]

Um no that is not an asspull, well maybe your definition. That is a change in character. You don't even mention any of the chapters of conversation between those two panels. You start with the point right before kurama starts to to think about narutos challenges to the very end where he begins to have faith in him. You have te chapter where te kyuubi spent a whole chapter saying what naruto is doing is foolish and naruto making a stand against his claims, then we have the issue with madara and kurama lending him chakra, and then kurama wanted to test his mettle to see i he would really go all out to save Son.

And yes izanagi and izanami art both asspulls, those techs were never mentioned before hand. The kyuubi partnership took several different chapters for the kyuubi to get over his arrogance and become allies with naruto, not an asspull

[scandalous']

http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/562/9

Bottom right panel should spark some ideas.

[M3J]

Um no that is not an asspull, well maybe your definition. That is a change in character. You don't even mention any of the chapters of conversation between those two panels. You start with the point right before kurama starts to to think about narutos challenges to the very end where he begins to have faith in him. You have te chapter where te kyuubi spent a whole chapter saying what naruto is doing is foolish and naruto making a stand against his claims, then we have the issue with madara and kurama lending him chakra, and then kurama wanted to test his mettle to see i he would really go all out to save Son.

Complete change in character? Still an asspull as Naruto's getting tons of power for free, for nothing just because Kyuubi had a complete 180 personality change. If the exact same situation happened to Sasuke, I'm pretty sure people would call it asspull even if there were major foreshadows.

And yes izanagi and izanami art both asspulls, those techs were never mentioned before hand. The kyuubi partnership took several different chapters for the kyuubi to get over his arrogance and become allies with naruto, not an asspull

Izanami definitely isn't since we actually had hint it existed, and that it can be escaped from. Izanagi is an asspull, but Sasuke can't/hasn't use it, so there shouldn't be any issue with either Sharingan jutsu.

Asspull is Kyuubi being chummy with Naruto. I don't think it's an asspull he and Naruto are working together, but it should be 90-150 degrees kind of change, not 180.

[Uchiha_Blood]

I am not ignoring it, the change is in no way reasonable at all. There was no hint at all about Kyuubi being a goddamn bunny. Every time we saw him, we saw him be malevolent and all. It makes absolutely no sense how it goes from willing to kill Naruto to his butt buddy in a day, or fist bump buddy. Kyuubi giving Naruto chakra like he did against Madara or Neji or even Sasuke makes sense, he's not being all "NARUTO I LOVE YOU HAVE MY CHAKRA", but "Pfft, you're weak, take some of my chakra." Kyuubi respecting Naruto is good, Kyuubi being like a pet bunny to Naruto is not good. That's my main issue with this.

It is 180 because Kyuubi didn't care about killing Naruto, he only cared about Naruto dying since Kyuubi would die too. I highly doubt Kyuubi would gain that much respect for Naruto when he's had help from Bee and Kushina, two outside help. At least Hashirama and Madara used their own power. I have no issue with this, because it establishes that Naruto's strong without making Kyuubi look that weak since Naruto needed help to beat it.

But the way it was shown, Kyuubi apparently got rid of all its hatred. This makes no sense considering what we've seen from it, if not know about it (characters' point of view). If it was hinted Kyuubi was a nice bunny, then this personality change wouldn't seem so bad.

Kyuubi knew Naruto cared about people and had the power to change people for the better. He's been in naruto for 16 years, but it takes one day for a complete personality change? Especially when he was willin to kill Naruto plenty of times? Makes no sense to me.

"Complete personality change" "Kyuubi became a bunny" ...
Overly drammatic much?
The only change in personality Kyuubi had is his attitude towards Naruto, which passed from "Want to kill" to "respect" to "want to help".

Also again, keep purposefully avoid the fact that the single day that passed from Naruto talking to Kyuubi to Naruto having Kyuubi's help is maybe the most eventful day in Naruto's existence.
Also keep forgetting that Kyuubi didn't got rid of his hatred ( it was never ever hinted at, or what all of Naruto's friends are pure-hearted? ) that Naruto accepted him and that he aknowledge him like no one since Rikudou Sennin do, and showed to both him and all the bijuus, in a war where the main bad guy wants to obtain, manipulate and exploit said Bijuus.

As for Naruto having help, please provide me a list of 5 characters able to overpower ( so no subdue with supposed fancy jutsus, but overpower ) Kyuubi even with Kushina and Bee's help, c'mon.
First two are Hashirama and Madara, then?
The void.
Ah no, I'm sure everyone can do it after all even 5 Bijuus couldn't do it, what is a normal ninja compared to 5 Bijuus?

It's not really an asspull. Ever since Izanagi, which is more of an asspull than Izanami, was introduced, it was a foreshadow for Izanami. Plus, Izanami still has a weakness, as Itachi said, so it can't be used in battles.

Double standard much?
Izanami's foreshadow is better than manga foreshadow?
Ah yes of course, Izanami isn't one of Naruto's abilities. Also Kabuto vs Itachi and Sasuke isn't a battle for your standars, right?
If we go with what manga characters ( and expecially Itachi ) said then Jiraiya is > Itachi & Kisame and Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage

1) Not the chakra that Naruto took, according to the Hachibi. And the Hachibi points out that logically Naruto should have already been in a critical condition at that point.
2) The Kyuubi was being held down by those tori gate seals.
3) Fine, my mistake. 180 turn. The only thing foreshadowed before that was Naruto taking the Kyuubi's power, which he did. Neither Minato or Jiraiya gave any hint at Naruto and the Kyuubi working side by side. Even the events with Kirabi didn't imply there was more then what Naruto had done.
4) Which happen afterward, so back to the main point.
5) There was no foreshadowing at all that the Kyuubi would have a change of heart and began to help Naruto. The links you provided and the events with Madara happen after the Kyuubi stop taking his chakra.
6) Before he began training to use the Bijuu Blast and went off to war, Naruto had already used "a ton of chakra" already. The Hachibi informed us that there was a limit to the amount that Naruto had taken and that logically, Naruto would die if he used it constantly. Yet what happen? He went on to remain in that mode to practice the Bijuu Blast over and over again, for most of the day before running off all night and into most of the day, and making dozens of clones, while in that form. All that happen before the incidents with Madara and Tobi where the Kyuubi may have had reasons to stop.

1) Are you aware that Kyuubi's chakra regenerates, like every other kinds of chakra?
2) Never ever stopped him before, he tried to kill Naruto behind the bars, he tried to kill Yondaime behind the bars. Also he had 9 fluffy tails he could use to smack Naruto around, if he wanted to
3) Say my response to ninjabot about Bee and Hachibi mentioning cooperation with Naruto and Kyuubi to prevent Naruto's death and for the Bijuudama training, and add it to the mountain of foreshadowing
4) Why? It happened before the incredible turn of the Kyuubi that didn't want his host to die
5) Just saying that if the main character says "Imma gonna do something about your hate" maybe, just maybe, said main character will achieve his result, right?
Kyuubi said that Bijuu understands actions more than words, and Naruto went and did it.
6) See point 1 for Kyuubi's chakra.
Also again, again and again Hachibi didn't comment on it when Naruto soloed the war, he commented on it during mid-fight against the Jinchuurikis.
Hachibi, that was always with Naruto and Bee, didn't utter a single word when Naruto and Bee moved forward.
What does it says to you?

http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/562/9

Bottom right panel should spark some ideas.

That was a translation error, the original japanese pronoun was one without a gender, so the translator assumed it talked about Naruto when, instead, the Hiraishin was used for Mei, so the correct translation would've been "her".
If I remember right MangaStream's translation used "her"

[jaymizzo]

It's not really an asspull. Ever since Izanagi, which is more of an asspull than Izanami, was introduced, it was a foreshadow for Izanami. Plus, Izanami still has a weakness, as Itachi said, so it can't be used in battles.

I know i said id leave you guys to your opinions, but... I couldnt help but notice this, your okay with Izanami but arent with the kyuubi liking Naruto? I mean even with all the forshadowing and explanations and justifications?

The irony in people calling the kyuubi liking Naruto an asspull but being content with MS jutsus or Sharingan jutsus

[ninjabot]

I know i said id leave you guys to your opinions, but... I couldnt help but notice this, your okay with Izanami but arent with the kyuubi liking Naruto? I mean even with all the forshadowing and explanations and justifications?

Izanami isn't reliant on an outside party overcoming centuries of hate in a mere moment inorder for it to work, therefore it's not the asspull that Naruto and Kurama's team-up is. Izanami even got an entire chapter explaining both it's origin, it's reason for creation, the weakness that comes from using it, and how to escape it.

Not once have we recieved an explanation as to how Naruto managed to erase years upon years of Kurama's stewing hatred from human subjugation, torture, and ridicule with a god damn fist bump. No amount of Naruto's good deeds without some sort of reaction from Kurama first will make this less of an asspull. Sorry.

Not to mention the Uchiha's power comes from Rikudo Sennin's spirit and heavily incorporates Yin chakra, the power of imagination and form creation. To get wierded out by the fact that they can potentially create any result their mind can imagine is refusal to acknowledge what the manga is telling us. In addition to the fact that the Sharingan has existed for centuries. To think that an eye that originated from the eye that created ALL JUTSU would only be capable of using 3 or 4 jutsu is downright moronic.