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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
After defeating Caesar, Law will explain his plan to defeat a Yonkou to the Strawhats. Very helpfully, the author fully revealed what will happen next here, when Law explains exactly what is going to happen next.
What makes you think Joker will be explained before Law's plan is revealed? If Joker is explained, what makes you believe he will be relevant to the story any time soon? Are you basing this prediction on clues from the actual manga, or are you merely making a conjecture based on nothing at all? What reason is there to believe that mention of Joker has been anything more than foreshadowing?
here. It was mentioned before that, and likely after too, but I'm to lazy to search for every mention. And while not unreasonable to think that he and the slime can merge, I sincerely hope not. While I enjoyed Vultron as a kid, I can't really say I would savor seeing One Piece pay tribute. Besides, should they merge, who would Zoro and company fight? Looks like Oda set up Zoro, Brook, and Sanji vs. the Slimes main body, while Luffy takes on CC, with Law and Chopper fighting Monet.
If Slime was created by CC DF power then it stands to reason that if they defeat CC then Slime will die. I mean so far Slime hasn't shown any weaknesses, if it comes in contact with a person then they die, and if you try to burn it then it explodes, and lastly since it doesn't a solid form it will either A: regenerate if it actually takes a hit, or B: just separate into mini Slimes. There hasn't been any conclusive evidence of what I am saying is true but it makes sense to me that Slime's life is connected to CC.
As for Zoro, Sanji and Brook fighting the Slime, maybe they wont, they don't seem very concerned with it, and they have to save the Samurai. PH is just a sub-arc, and in sub-arcs is not uncommon for some SH to not have major battles. Also the Slime being made up of Gas, just like CC, to fight it you probably need Haki to "coat" yourself into, and Brook doesn't have it, at least according to Luffy. I actually would like more to see Zoro facing Tashigi, even if she is no match for him, it's always funny to see them together. I also would like to see Sanji dueling the Samurai like he said but maybe if that happens at all, maybe it happens later, after they save the kids and his son.
It's really interesting to think who may be able to really put Law under so much pressure, that he can not even follow his own desire !
As far as we know right now, Law is one of the most powerful characters so far, not just going by bounty (which is no real indicator for strength) but also his devil fruit is just really insane!
I personally think it's not CC who posseses the control over law, but definetly Joker who uses Law for supporting CC who on the other hand develops everything Joker wants!
In my opinion Joker is going to be explained in about 5-8 chapters from now on !
this arc must be the beginning to something really out of the mind.
cause right now i dont see ppl strong enough to beat the SH's. i mean in the past. in every arc, we was like. aaaawwwww how they going to beat this such strong ppls. and we see that they win almost by luck. but now they like the villains. over power as hell.
a bad guy come. they do all the attack and all the SH's member, they start to counter all the attack to the point were they do 1 hit k.o.
the kidd pirate are the perfect match for the SH's. like they have the same ppl for opponent. like 2 nova are in that crew and SH's have 2 nova. the other 2 nova have the second stronger in that crew who is like a swordsman.(killer) match for zoro and kidd for luffy. kidd can make hes arm of iron and luffy as well. perfect match.
and for the look of it. they on the way of big mom. so they must be the opponent for then before big mom.
These guys Straw Hat pirates are fighting are just an introduction to the new world. And if you haven't noticed, Law is not a straw hat and he just gained a huge edge over Smoker. We could very likely see a Luffy vs Law battle sometime in the future even if right now they are working together.
here, where Law says "We Both Have Things We Need to Get Back". The Heart Pirates being kidnapped is nothing more than speculation at Mangahelpers based on that single line. There is nothing, not a single line of dialog connecting the Law or the Heart Pirates to Joker, there has not even been speculation about that here. That's something you just made up. Law has only referenced Joker once, warning CC not to even tell Joker he was on Punk Hazard, here. What basis do you even have to say that Joker kidnapped the Heart Pirates?
Could you further explain where you are getting this from, because it sounds like you too are confusing fan speculation with events from the manga. There has not been even the smallest hint that anyone is controlling Law, threatened him, or his crew. Speculation regarding the latter has been fueled exclusively by the link I provided above. All indications are that Law came to the island of his own free will, looking for government research notes containing information about the "important key" to defeating a Yonkou, located at Punk Hazard. Please expand on your prediction: what makes you think anyone, be it CC or Joker, controls Law.
nobody needs haki to beat that slime.. luffy already fought one before he could even use haki.. that green guy which name i forgot.. sanji just gave him flour/starch.. xD but anyway cc already said its weakness..
its become really hard to predict the upcoming episodes as there's so much that could happen.. as law mentioned after the capture of cc everything will move fast.. how fast is he talking about.. i mean if its fast fast then who ever predicts that the SH will go to wano island should forget that.. i want to see some big shot enemy..
As for Logia's they all have their weakness, like Enel was beaten by Luffy even without haki. But for CC and the slime I am pretty sure they would need Haki since they don't have anyone in their group that can counter the the DF power of CC unless they posses haki. As for the slime they can pretty much freeze if or if they beat CC they might be able to get him to stop the slime. But as of now haki seems to be the only option for them other than trying to freeze him by luring him into the frozen sea.
Wonder if smokey can counter the gas effect of CC, I mean they are both pretty much gas so he should be able to push back the poison gas.
Hm, could the fight against Slime and CC be over in Ch.671 already? With Slime being close to the location of Kinemon, Sanji, Zoro and Brook - at the midway lake - I think it may be only a matter of time until they figure out Slime being weak to water. Like Zoro starts off with 380 Pound Cannon and whirls up some water and then finishes off Slime with a water soaked Kokujou Outatsumaki. But after all, I think it's too easy somehow. ^_^
I guess I missed something very important, can someone tell me who this Joker guy is or is he and CC the same person?
No real need to speculate how the slime will be defeated, Caesar already revealed it's weakness to the audience: it's weak against water. Zoro, Sanji, and Brook will somehow figure that out and defeat the main body before it can finish crossing the lake.
I don't think that is what Law meant by "fast". The actual fight against the Yonkou will be slow and deliberate, he "didn't say that we could fell a Yonkou just like that...!! If we take things one step at a time and go with my strategy, [he's] saying that the chance might present itself...!! (Ch. 668, P.2). When he said "fast", he meant that once the plan is executed events will transpire so quickly that "there will be no turning back", he was offering Luffy a "...last chance to back out" (url=http://www.batoto.net/read/_/103954/one-piece_ch668_by_mangarule/13]Ch. 668, P.13[/url]). He did not mean that they could sail directly from Punk Hazard to the Yonkou's headquarters. Big Mom has been shown to control multiple islands and have a large fleet. Chances are this will be a multi-island arc in the mold of Baroque Works or the Sabaody-Amazon Lilly-Impel Down-Marineford.
first met. Obviously there is no reason to believe Joker controls Law. It would be quite a stretch to assume that because Law knows of Joker, that Joker controls Law.
Last edited by Kaiten; June 11, 2012 at 12:10 PM.