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The ninja with more leadership feats between Naruto & Sasuke is Naruto. Sasuke leads his team of Juugo, Suigetsu, and Karin. The team got slapped around by Bee, and then failed to capture him. They then attacked the Kages, that was obviously a failure as well. Tobi is not a member of the team, and he was required to save them. All of Sasuke's accomplishments have been achieved with him going it alone. Sasuke's record as a leader is pretty terrible. Naruto's leadership during the war far exceeds anything feat of leadership Sasuke has ever shown or is likely to ever show. Sasuke is, rather annoyingly so, more intelligent than Naruto. But he's not a better leader.
Naruto was aware of Tsukuyomi, and Genjutsu in general the last time he fought Itachi, yet never avoided eye contact. He was aware of avoiding eye contact the previous two times he got caught by Itachi aswell so... yeah. And I seriously don't think Naruto can reach that mode before he's caught with Genjutsu, sorry.Originally Posted by Impossibility
I agree the battle won't last long enough to provide Itachi with more chakra... but that's only because Naruto would be incapacitated post haste. It's impossible for you to think up a realistic instance where he isn't Genjutsu from the get-go since we've seen how easy it is for him to succumb to it even with prior knowledge.
Not being able to overcome insurmountable odds in no way, shape, or form makes Sasuke a bad leader. Even good leaders know when they're fighting a losing battle and that there's no way to win. Being able to succeed based on a plan put together requiring team work where you are the head tactictian is leadership. Being able to move and motivate a cell to mission accomplishment despite the type of motivation used is good leadership. From putting together the perfect team based on their abilities, to making sure he can keep the team from self destructing, he had all that covered. There's literally never been an instance in the manga where Naruto was the man in charge or better yet, the RIGHT man in charge. Outside of leading everyone to where the disguised white Zetsu were, that is. And that's no more leadership than following a compass.Quote:
If the ability to sense out opponents or hit something really, really hard was all it took to be a good leader, Naruto'd win in spades. But we know it takes more than that. From protecting Team 7's scroll by thinking up a password (and succeeding in weeding out a disguised Naruto), to choosing to give up the scroll inorder to spare the lives of his partners, Sasuke's been shown to have both the analytical mind to be a good leader, aswell as the compassion to place the team above the mission. Granted, that was old Sasuke... but the point is Sasuke's leadership feats aren't just better than Naruto's, but they blow them out of the water because he genuinely leads those under his employ.
How is sasuke a better leader when he tries to kill his team mates whenever he seems them unnecessary? Sorry but I'd follow narutos indomitable will to never give up than sasuke, whose pretty much insane
That happen once, which still wouldn't change the main point of a leader, being able to come up with a plan and lead others with it. For all of Naruto's strengths, he's not cut out to be a leader, as he's someone who jumps straight into the fire whether there's a plan or not and has a habit of attempting to do everything himself despite advice otherwise. His current actions with Kirabi is prefect proof, as Kirabi's the one who came up with the plans and tactics when they needed them.
I can see them lose only against ET Madara ( too OP ) and team Tsuchi, since Muu, Oonoki and Deidara have attacks too strong to withstand even for Naruto and Sasuke.
I can see the fight go both ways against Kisame and Itachi since even with Chakra Mode Naruto was too fast for Kisame, and Sasuke is a good match for Itachi unless the latter uses Izanami, after which he would lose an eye and become an easy prey for Naruto.
Even if Kisame fuses, Naruto in taijutsu would downright destroy him in both super Chakra Mode and Sage Mode, and if he goes Sage Mode Kisame would risk turning into stone. Nothing forces Naruto to be always in super Chakra Mode.
Also I doubt Kisame can absorb a Bijuudama, Samehada was able to absorb only 6 or 7 tails worth of chakra of Version 1, which is <<<<<<<<<< in quantity, density and everything else of Kyuubi's Bijuudama.
Hell Kisame's chest was blown open from a Lariat
Also Jiraiya and Nagato would prove difficult, since, if Jiraiya sets up Frog Song they both lose, or at least Sasuke ( Bee did say that perfect Jinchuuriki are immune to genjutsus ), and even Naruto can't withstand Nagato and Jiraiya alone.
Shinra Tensei would repel anything Naruto and Sasuke would throw at Jiraiya in preparation, but both Sasuke and Naruto can kill Jiraiya 1 on 1 if somehow they manage to divide him from Nagato, which is possible since both would survive against Nagato long enough on their own, me thinks.
The rest they stomp, they cover the other's weakness and are an overly haxed duo in their own right, hell even if Naruto was in Sage Mode I would go with the same outcome
Sasuke, Karin, Jugo, and Suigetsu against Bee doesn't qualify as insurmountable odds. And the battle against the Kages may have been that, but I'd say a good leader wouldn't put his team into a virtually impossible conflict that was completely avoidable. Sasuke's work during the Chunin exam was impressive. However, as you say, that was an entirely different Sasuke. New Sasuke is, as has been pointed out, pretty much insane.
1- they think Bee is a normal host ( not prefect one )
2- original plan was attacking Danzo after the summit , but Zetsu back stab them and ...
about Karin , well if you think about it carfully , if Danzo could use KA on Tobi or even Sasuke then at least both Sasuke and Karin would get screw up .... the real problem was after that ( And why Kabuto could use Karin ability to heal his body but Karin couldn't do it for herself !? well , another question from Kishi )
some group like Itachi and Kisame have chance to defeat Sasuke/Naruto group ....
Shall we consider Naruto as the main character here !?
Kisame was able to tank the bijuu mode speed punch and still keep running. I think it'll take Naruto a lot more than Sage Mode and Kyuubi Mode punches to keep Kisame down.
Sasuke was getting his eyes plucked out, that may not be on the level of pain Kakashi receive, but is definitely not a 'walk in the park'.
I think every known Uchiha can break tsukuyomi, like Shisui, Tobi, Madara along with Sasuke. They all have the requirements and more.
Itachi said : you can't cast genjutsu on someone that uses the same eye ....
Everyone has to remember that, regardless of the illusion one suffers under Tsukuyomi, the mental anguish of the Genjutsu itself comes from days of torture. Itachi may have only ripped out Sasuke's eye, but that excruciating pain lasted for practically a day or more inside of Sasuke's mind. Sure Kakashi endured 3 days of being stabbed over and over, but that's only because he didn't break out before hand.
Makes you wonder why Itachi's Tsukuyomi, in that only instance, didn't invert the color like any other occasions though.
Yet Itachi repeated time and time again that a pureblood Uchiha can broke through Tsukuyomi, so despite the fact that we never know when Itachi speaks the truth, we can be sure that, in this single instance, he was being truthful