The Breaker : New Waves 75 Discussion

[haegar]

Not really happy with this chapter, I really don't want to see Shioon become another 9AD and there are times where I feel this will happen. I understand Shioon is pissed about what happened to his mother but I wanted to see him gain power in his own way and not like his master did.

To be fair, he might very well still end up doing that once he gets a brief taste of master's way - though in a way his "new" way might end up being a "whitewash" of master's way I get your point ...

[FrostyMouse]

It was interesting. Going into the Black Origin Threshold should heal his Ki Center, assuming that as the flow of ki is reversed, that would heal damage or reverse things.

I don't know, we'll see what happens. I'd rather see Shioon kicking ass than sitting around whining.

[mup]

wait im confused when 9art said the ki get revered how does it change ?

[NAM61]

Not really happy with this chapter, I really don't want to see Shioon become another 9AD and there are times where I feel this will happen. I understand Shioon is pissed about what happened to his mother but I wanted to see him gain power in his own way and not like his master did.

we all knew this was bound to happen it happen to 9ad teacher and to him it is the curse of the bh techs. it is his power as well he learned the tech passed down form student to teacher dont get why you said it is not his way when he learned form 9ad. i have been waiting for this to happen since we saw 9ad doing it at the end of part one.

i think shwoon will try and crush the doctors head like 9ad dragon was trying to do to the murins alliance leader on part one. we saw him try to learn the foot stomp. he will try it but he will be stop either by master kwon showing up or by sera telling shwoon not to kill him. like shwoon woke 9ad from it

[mup]

i dont think it will be that easy to take shinwoo out of BOT not even kwon will be able to stop him let see how it play out shinwoo ki center is broken

[kidopitz27]

I don't think that the Doc really want's Shioon to use BOT i thing what he did on both translations are he stab Sera to make Shioon come back and the doctor know what is Shioon's body condition (he can't use martial arts) and he thinks that Shioon is really weak so he did that i don't think the doctor knew he will use BOT or he will use a uber powerful Soul Crushing Strike

i think what Shioon do is just focus BOT on his fist and use SCS (BOT i think is just a super steroid that powers up your attack but because you got crazy you can't use martial arts just basic attack like what Hyuk saw on the rooftop when GMR fights no form of martial arts just punch and kicks )

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

i dont think it will be that easy to take shinwoo out of BOT not even kwon will be able to stop him let see how it play out shinwoo ki center is broken

Well, BOT doesn't last infinitely. After all, Unwol was shown to regain his senses... AFTER he had slaughtered all those masters while in BOT. So, worst case scenario, Shioon's going to wake up in a pile of rubble and bodies. However, as you point out, Shioon is something of an enigma here - as he has a broken ki-center, it's impossible to say exactly how the BOT-state will affect him.

[blaise]

So far it seems that the previous users of the origin threshold have had rage as the emotion behind the technique. Since its an emotion driven process, its not out of the question to have a positive or affirming emotion control the process. Given shioon's personality, I think it would have been much better for shioon to be powered up by care/concern for sera. I think shioon might eventually control the technique like that.
This really reminds of the 'dou style' and 'sei style' martial arts personalities in hsdk. The former converts rage to power and the latter draws power from complete cold heartedness. I think there was a third, 'gedou style' which in my estimation transcends emotion.
I was rather hoping shioon's origin threshold would be like the third. Oh well

[GOOMOONRYONG]

sorry if i sound rude but im not sure i get you shinwoo is just using the black origin threshold and we found out in this chapter that
it work with emotions and anger is one of them so i dont know where your getting the idea
of shinwoo being 9ART

You can see it in his personality ever since he learned about his mother being hurt. The Fox even commented on how Shioon's face looked like 9AD when he declared that he would kill all of those S.U.C. bastards, while was similar to when 9AD declared war on the masters of Murim. Even the last lines of the chapter "I don't care if I go crazy, if I could only gain power" he sounds very similar to 9AD in that regard. The higher ups who met Shioon feared that 9AD had raised another dragon and in the recent chapters that certainly looks to be the case. I really hope it doesn't turn out this way but it seems like Shioon is beginning to walk down the same path as 9AD.

You don't sound rude it's fine to disagree with me, you are entitled to your own opinion.

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we all knew this was bound to happen it happen to 9ad teacher and to him it is the curse of the bh techs. it is his power as well he learned the tech passed down form student to teacher dont get why you said it is not his way when he learned form 9ad. i have been waiting for this to happen since we saw 9ad doing it at the end of part one.

i think shwoon will try and crush the doctors head like 9ad dragon was trying to do to the murins alliance leader on part one. we saw him try to learn the foot stomp. he will try it but he will be stop either by master kwon showing up or by sera telling shwoon not to kill him. like shwoon woke 9ad from it

Maybe it was bound to happen but I was really hoping that Shioon would be able to deal with the blows and still gain power and train without going crazy. I might be silly for hoping for that, oh well.

[tayrin]

Its still possible that Shioon won't go crazy. He has shown amazing ability in learning martial arts at incredable speed. He tries to do a technique an succeds almost imidiatly. i really think he will gain control over the BOT, maybe not right after entering, but I think he will regain control.

[Monsterguy]

Well, I was reading a lot of stories so far (my main interest lies with a story development, along with art that suits me or I like it), and I must say the breaker in part 2 almost took the wrong part in story development. So I almost reached my limit to where the story might become annoying to me. The author expanded dramatical events to the max untill chapter 70, where I personally almost felt it "that's enough", but is now comming back on the right curse(I'm glad I didn't stop reading it...), and am now getting the feeling that he is now settling itself down to a development that should be more interesting again, even for me...

Still, why SERA ???
The author sure likes to torture me and is giving me shocks, almost to the point of heart attack...

In first season it was Shiho, that got eliminated or better to say put in background of the main story, because she got shoot by a gun, and now it seems the same will happen with Sera, who was stabbed.

Why only my favorite female characters...

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So far it seems that the previous users of the origin threshold have had rage as the emotion behind the technique. Since its an emotion driven process, its not out of the question to have a positive or affirming emotion control the process. Given shioon's personality, I think it would have been much better for shioon to be powered up by care/concern for sera. I think shioon might eventually control the technique like that.
This really reminds of the 'dou style' and 'sei style' martial arts personalities in hsdk. The former converts rage to power and the latter draws power from complete cold heartedness. I think there was a third, 'gedou style' which in my estimation transcends emotion.
I was rather hoping shioon's origin threshold would be like the third. Oh well

wow, interesting thinking, and yes I would totally like to see something like that...

[kidopitz27]

you can compare Sera to Shiho they are both attached to someone with a principle that if you hurt my love ones you will get hurt tenfold of what you did to them

[bamf]

The Sera-Shiho exists to show Shioon's path following the same one as 9AD. Since Shiho didn't die officially, it's extremely doubtful the Sera will, either.

I can definitely get behind the idea of Shioon transforming BOT into being driven by his feelings of camaraderie rather than rage. I highly doubt it's going to happen this time around, though, since Shioon has been driven by rage in nearly each of his fights he's had since he lost his ki center, not to mention the whole "I'll kill them all" bit.

Regardless of whether his ki center is recovered after all this, if he can enter BOT here, he can train it infinitely in meditation training until he figures out a way to control it. If any of you have read Negima, the main character did something extremely similar.

[blaise]

The way I see it, he could gain control of Origin threshold in one of two ways ( or both). Either replace rage with a benevolent emotion or the shattered ki center will end up being the secret ingredient to controlling the most powerful martial arts tech in murim. I would love either.

[mup]

what going to happen to the blood the mad doc took is it still going to go to the suc ? when shinwoo perhaps iinjure the doc so much that the suc plan goes on hold from the damage they took from shinwoo