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That's fine for a sentimental pick, but you really think Netherlands won't go to the knockout stage?
I have some faith in Portugal. They always shine in moments of huge pressure. I remember their matches against England and Netherlands in Euro 2004 and Germany world cup in 2006 (funny they beat both countries in these two competitions when they weren't really the favorites) those weren't easy games but they made it trough and reached the finals of euro 2004 and semifinals of world cup 2006.
Sure some great players like Ricardo Carvalho, Deco, Figo and Simão have retired and their coach is not as good as Scolari was but they have some great new players like Pepe, C. Ronaldo, Fabio Coentrão, Nani. I think that with a better coach they could go very far. (Maybe in a far away future Mourinho decides to coach the portuguese team)
In the last world cup they were eliminated early cuse they faced the champion spain but even then some new players were quite the surprise like Fabio Conetrão maybe this year some of their players will surprise again.
Well but yeah you can say my faith is baseless
And also I wouldn't think little of netherlands if they didn't go to the next phase cuse you can say their group is a knock out phase alredy.
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The WC Finalist not qualifying for the knockout stages of the Euros would be a much bigger disappointment than a Portuguese team not qualifying, which while talented, has quite a few holes. Portugal is basically all about relying on Ronaldo.
Agree today we had some referee mistakes but I don't think it was a case of corruption just games interpretation. Sure the red card for sokratis was unfair but I don't think it was corruption. Just the heat of the moment. And about the penalty I don't think it was a penalty either.
I'm not German lol I just have its flag because I'm rooting for it
Portugal has the second best player in the world and a decent defense. A foul play from any team near the great area could lead to a goal from C.Ronaldo. Nani is also a good striker and a counter attack could lead to a goal of his. Portugal is being underestimated by lots of people I think.
Even disregarding that, those were three very questionable first half decisions: the two yellows, which weren't necessarily even fouls, and the non-handball penalty call.
Pepe, like some other questionable defenders, isn't amazing, but at times gets the job done through less than honest means.
I don't really care about seeing a world cup finalist reaching the finals of euro... sure if they play a good football go ahead, but it would be much more exciting to see something new and surprising rather than some repeat of last world cup...
It's only because Portugal needs to overcome one of Germany or Holland in order to qualify for the knockout stage. If Portugal were in any other group, I'd say that they would be a shoe in to qualify, but they're in the group of death. Say Portugal had gotten to play in Group A or in France and England's group, they would've easily qualified. Portugal could surprise us all, but they just haven't been overly convincing as of late.
That Just shows that referee likes to give out a lot of red cards not that he's corrupt. I think he's just a bad referee...
Yeah, some of Holland's players do not deserve to be on a football pitch, such as Nigel De Jong. Howard Webb just didn't want to send someone off at that point, but that was the worst offense that didn't earn a red card that I've ever seen. Xabi Alonso literally went flying.
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One of the commentators mentioned that he gave out something like 17 red cards this season yeah. But that's one referee and one match, so I'm not going to make a blanket statement like that.
Banana, the reason I thought that the ref was a bit corrupt was that, apart from the obvious professional foul, he basically didn't make any decisions in Greece's favor. He wasn't throwing yellows at Poland, nor did he give one of Poland's players a yellow for a rather rash two footed challenge that found none of the ball.
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I suppose I was also insinuating that a lot of La Liga's refs are corrupt, but they're honestly just bad, not corrupt. :P
Spain's not Italy or anything.
So you're going to discard the send off Szczęsny got?
Well every referee has a way to deal with things this one just thought it wasn't a penalty but we arguing over it won't change much as it's already in the past and we diverge in this point.
Well I'm just supporting a team I like nothing wrong with that. I'm not denying my country or anything as it isn't even taking part in the Euro.
If you consider the winners of a group of death as if they are set in stone is not a group of death anymore... really it's just another group... I think this group is way more open than the others.
Well I haven't watched the match so I can't say anything about it but it's not the match with the most cards in history that one was funnily enough between portugal and netherlands in world cup 2006 it had 12 yellow cards and 4 red ones (and I watched this one and can say it was completely fair)... so it's not completely impossible for a referee to give that many cards if needed.
Have you by chance watched the said game with 12 yellows and one straight red?
I suppose that at that rate, it's not really a group of death, but as all four members rank in the top 10 according to FIFA rankings, it's ostensibly a group of death.
No, I haven't watched it. I might try to go find it. It wasn't just about that one match, it was more than he handed out something like 16-17 red cards and 178 yellow cards in 29 matches. That's just crazy. You've got to be looking to give out cards to give out that many.
In today's match, the first yellow card was just a normal header. It's fine if you want to call a foul, but he might've been the only ref in the world who would've pulled out a card for that.
If you've noticed, Howard Webb's gone away from being a card giver. I watched some of his matches at the end of the Premier League and they were actually quite well refereed. I still have problems with him awarding United two penalties when they were losing 3-0 to us, but that's a different story. I didn't watch all of Russia vs the Czech Republic, but I thought that he reffed the match pretty well today. I like how he's letting people play and doesn't just look to pull out cards nowadays.