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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    I am still of the opinion that the first generation (male generation) wasn't necessarily limited to 47 like the more recent generations were.

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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    Chronos and Octavia have really caught my attention! I thought of Riful first when seeing her That cheerful, innocent smile, the way she sits, her youthful appearance. It all reminds me of Riful (and of how much I miss her). I like the chapter, even though I have no idea what they are talking about. I think this is finally a real good chapter again after seemingly years
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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenrir_validnri View Post
    I am still of the opinion that the first generation (male generation) wasn't necessarily limited to 47 like the more recent generations were.
    ...Well, that's certainly a possbility - could definitely rationalize that their is just the one male generation like that...of course, their would have to be double, or more, to pull that off I think...

    Meh...more then just more then 47, we'd also have to remember that the generation would have lasted for a very long amount of time....I don't know - I personally find it easier to believe that their were simple multiple male generations comprising 47 members as always.

    Why 47? Who knows......Ryus has said because their are 47 districts in Japan, or something....what the meaning in the context of Claymore is, I don't know, but it's definitely something to speculate about.
    You know, there are as many ways to live as there are people in this world...and each one deserves a closer look.

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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

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    If I'm correct there were 30 ABs in Isley's army (not counting Rigardo).
    There could have been ABs from the AB factories that were never actually warriors and were awakened to destroy a town. They don't just disappear so maybe some of those types of ABs joined Isley's army. They don't all have to be from the 1st generation of warriors.

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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenrir_validnri View Post
    I am still of the opinion that the first generation (male generation) wasn't necessarily limited to 47 like the more recent generations were.
    Agreed but I dont think any generation was limited to a total of 47 warriors but 47 at a time, however I believe the male gen was excluded from that rule too. They where most likely awakening very often and where just pumping out warriors till they figured out males awakened too quick and females didnt...

    If I was to look for a reason for there being 47 regions (beyond there being that many prefectures in Japan, and Britain has 47 member states by chance lolz) I'd wager either the final talley of male warriors still exsisting at the time of them being put to pasture was 47 non awakened warriors, or because they where awakening so quickly they created 47 regions and threw a couple warriors in each just encase one awakened so the others could scare him off. However eventually the org caught on and males went away but the 47 region idea remained. Just my speculations atm though...
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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    Chapter 128 Summary - The Holy City's Survival
    I think this chapter is even lengthier than the last one.

    Enjoy!
    Warning! I may get some of the translation or things incorrect.

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    I added this to my first post on the first page.
    Last edited by God Eye Galatea; July 01, 2012 at 09:27 PM.
    神眼のガラテア
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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    Quote Originally Posted by God Eye Galatea View Post
    Chapter 128 Summary - The Holy City's Destruction
    I think this chapter is even lengthier than the last one.

    Enjoy!
    Warning! I may get some of the translation or things incorrect.

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    I added this to my first post on the first page.
    Cid is referring to dead Yoma... in case clare comes out without her scar?..they said they would preform the operation on the spot if that happened...so they would need yoma flesh and thanks a million for the summery !

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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    Thank you very much for your translations GEG....I'm hoping Gene will show up as well to give us his - until Gernot does his magic, the more the merrier.

    Taking what you say into account....

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    -Helen asks if this is for real. They headed out from the organization and only needed 10 days to reach Rabona. If they were to travel on foot, it would have taken them at least 20 days. The ship is incredible Helen says. Miria says that since they don't have to climb mountains and go through forests that is one of the reason as well.
    -Tabitha senses that Cassandra is still very far away and because she is not traveling at high speed, they have arrived before Cassandra at least 6 or 7 days.
    .....I'm done on this - like Dany said, no use crying over spilled milk - if Helen truly says the ship is incredible despite us not even seeing a panal of it....forget it - at least it seemed like Yagi tried to clarify the subject, if this is true.

    Still, if the numbers are accurate....I don't know -- whether or not they spent that extra day at Staff or not seems superfluous (even though an extra day at Staff to talk more about the events that happened would have been great) if they really were gonna beat Cassandra by such a vast degree - it almost makes the worrying they felt about racing them seem pointless.

    2) As before, Yagi is most definitely deliberately keeping Raki from putting the dots together concerning Priscilla - waiting for the right moment for that dramatic discovery no doubt.

    3) Octavia and Chronos, specifically, explanation.....I don't know what to say -- it feels weird....Priscilla is not exactly uncommon knowledge to a degree -- even back when it was largely thought she was this weaker AB that Isley defeated and took as his wife, it wasn't like her existence was unknown....

    I feel....I need to think about this, because it feels....I don't know.

    Priscilla has always suppressed her power, being her speciality - Isley, Rigardo and Riful for a very long time, were the only ones who knew what she was really capable of...then we moved onto the Helen and Deneve knowing about her, the MiBs (least of all, Dae and Rubel)....

    I think I can get this....I think what throws me off is - why this? Why the gathering? Why now?

    I think the reasoning ties into 2 things - one, because Priscilla has, again, always been conservative about using her power.....Galatea as far away as Rabona, sensed Isley's death...Priscilla has always been conservative about how much she lets out, yet given her state, I feel she plainly isn't suppressing her power in the least....which is why, undoubtedly, every Awakened on the entire island can sense her and is now aware of her....

    Because again, only the Awakened and those who took part in Isley's war truly cared/were aware of those events and were aware of Isley's new consort...and even then, only Riful knew what she was capable of (and even then, her sensing isn't perfect, good as it is...and it takes an Eye, physical contact, to sense her power when fully-suppressed), and only her for a very long time....

    I think I can genuinely understand this -- Priscilla, given her state, isn't suppressing her power in the least....much more then just showing some of her awesome power, which she normally does given however much she needs to get the job done....what is happening, is akin to Isley's death -- she isn't suppressing her power whatsoever, so naturally, every Awakened Being can sense it...and naturally, all of them were Awakened we've never seen before because none of them took part in Isley's war to have known more information, and of course, even then, only Riful survived to know what she was really capable of (to a lesser degree).

    I also feel Raciella, being tied to Priscilla, may also be what they are feeling and she obviously has no suppression at all that we've seen...it's plausible that, what everybody is feeling, is in some ways, tied to her as she also exceeds Abyssals though not as much as Priscilla.

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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    Where was Raki during the last few scenes? I would like to think that he was near the blob and knows that it is priscilla but he probably won't realize that until they start fighting again.

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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    It's strange that news travels fast, though maybe it shouldn't be....they are all apparently aware of what Miria did and the events at Staff -- I question if that's the true reason behind the specific numbers and dates brought up....more so then beating Cassandra, they were intentionally made for the sake of explaining and giving time how news of what happened at Staff could spread for everyone else to hear.

    Getting Pieta flashbacks yet again -that definitely seems to be the impression for this....we've questioned before why Miria and the soldiers didn't just leave Pieta, and the rationale behind it is undoubtedly because they didn't/couldn't - they didn't want to leave the people and they were probably unable to escape anywhere. This is the same thing....they are preparing for an assault against a mighty foe, only this time, just one....the ironic part is, the real threat is the blob that's with them.

    I find it very hard to believe that every single civilian in the city could have escaped as easily as all that...whether they were eaten by the Awakened, or perhaps something else....the point is, this chapter seems to give the impression they all may have escaped without too much trouble and that's too much to believe. For many, I feel things may have definitely gone very very wrong for them.

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    Where was Raki during the last few scenes? I would like to think that he was near the blob and knows that it is priscilla but he probably won't realize that until they start fighting again.
    I 100% agree....Yagi is definitely deliberately forcing Raki to not put things together -- not being around to see the blob is huge proof....he's probably waiting on Raki finding out until after Priscilla, as well as Claire perhaps, escapes -- much more dramatic that way.
    You know, there are as many ways to live as there are people in this world...and each one deserves a closer look.

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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

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    I 100% agree....Yagi is definitely deliberately forcing Raki to not put things together -- not being around to see the blob is huge proof....he's probably waiting on Raki finding out until after Priscilla, as well as Claire perhaps, escapes -- much more dramatic that way.
    That is probably right but it makes him seem so dumb. After all, didn't he want to see Clare no matter what? He would have went with the others to see the blob because he would have been closer to Clare that way. In this chapter he doesn't even seem interested in finding her or going near the blob (which has her inside). But then what will Yagi do with Raki once he does find out that it is priscilla? I hope he doesn't pull something like in the Anime.

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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    *shrug...

    I can believe certain things - that Raki never knew Priscilla's true potential, that perhaps he never even saw her Awakened form, that he naturally doesn't know of Claire's yearning for revenge....none of the Ghosts are referring to Priscilla by name.

    Yagi is definitely taking advantage of the fact that, good grief, we've never seen an arc or a flashback to the seven-years Isley/Raki/Priscilla spent together....so since we don't know how much Raki really knows, we naturally have to rationalize that if he doesn't know something, it's because he never did.

    Of course, again, not going to see the blob and being pulled away by Cid....yes, I can see why it's weird that Raki is seemingly deliberately being kept from knowing/seeing too much right now.

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    What gets my attention, are 2 things.

    1) What will the Awakened do, as people said? Will they really just stand by and watch the battle? will they aid her or fight her? I think they'll honestly just be their own third-party....Cassandra doesn't want any help and is single-minded at the moment, more then ever actually....aiding her will just annoy and provoke her, and fighting her obviously goes against what they want....they'll probably just sit around. It's not like they necessarily are all friends with eachother....all these Awakened are here were scattered around and came together for the same reason....they've seemingly been acting civil thus far, but it doesn't seem difficult to believe that something small can start a fight between them.

    For their own sake, and for the sake of being able to see what they came here for....I believe they will just sit back and watch without doing anything.

    2) What are these things that Cid is referring too? Definitely the key thing to keep in mind....it sounds like they've captured something and they needed whole troops to do it - if ordinary soldiers could capture whatever it is, I find it hard to believe it's something too far out there....perhaps a weapon of some sort of further distract Cassandra. Whatever the case is, it's something subtle and important to pay attention too.

    ---------- Post added at 04:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:00 PM ----------

    Here's a thought - perhaps the things he is referring to are ships....more ships to escape on if they ever feel the need; to haul the blob if necessary.....that definitely seems like a rationale idea.

    I guess time will tell - I find it unlikely that it's a weapon(s) Cid is referring too and it's something else entirely.
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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    i have wondered since that extra scene...what was isley going to discuss with dauf and rigaldo about chronos...shiek probably remembers when i brought it up.was he(and these new ABs)willingly working for the org.we've seen isley commanding an army of awakens...there may have been ABs that have come to an understanding/pact/arrangement with the org.
    yagi gave us a pic of an AB fighting on the mainland...but is it true that they all eventually perish?
    where have all these new(old)ABS been residing...the mainland or on the island?
    believe me,out of all this...chronos may give us an accurate number of years of the org. and claymore's history.plus,maybe some insight on the male generations...because between #'s 1,2 and 3.they were pretty incompatable with each other...unlike the women warriors(overall...except ophelia lol).
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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    I am glad that chapter came out this early, but I will wait for the English scans to come out and in the meantime read the spoilers.

    Fistly I am disapointed Yagi didn't show us the boatride. I mean, they have traveled for 10 DAYS, and nobody thought to ask Raki: "Hey Raki, what have you been doing this last seven years?"

    Secondly I am very interested in a reason behind AB gathering, what are they expecting from Priscilla? ( but the answer woudl be probably as obivious as they want to see how strong she is. To bad that Priscilla is 'little' psychotic and she will probably start killing them as soon as she get out of there )

    Thirdly I am glad to finally see some old faces like Galatea, Miata, Clarice, Cid and Galk. I am also suprised that Rabona solders have such b**** of steel to actually stay in the city who is slowly being surrounded by insanely strong AB and to protect it at all costs that's some guts, especially when telling to a Claymore who just bring the downfall of Organization that they will not listen to her and retreat from the city. Badass to the core.

    Finally I am interested in where the story will go next. It is obvious that Cassandra will arrive soon ( in like several days ) and that preparations are made for some serious fighting in the near future. Hopefully we will see Clare again real soon ( in like month or two )

    From what I have read this chapter will be one good chapter indeed. Many thanks to Good Eye Galatea for summering it up for all of us
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    Re: Claymore 128 Spoiler thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Coa View Post
    Secondly I am very interested in a reason behind AB gathering, what are they expecting from Priscilla? ( but the answer woudl be probably as obivious as they want to see how strong she is. To bad that Priscilla is 'little' psychotic and she will probably start killing them as soon as she get out of there )
    ummm thats why they said that there all confident that they could escape her...they know she is way stronger then her but escape is a viable option
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