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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    You're too harsh on your "friend". Making stupid decisions is part of the "gaining experience" process, hopefully he'll learn from his mistakes and find the right way.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

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    Deal breaker!
    No - huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thornofcarrion View Post
    I confess, I have the same urges as Charlie - to get married. May be its the cold weather, which makes you horny and stuff, but I do want to settle down.
    Thorn - I don't want to get married but I can understand your urges. Maybe you should start to look for that potential someone and settle down.

    @ M3J - Being concerned for a friend is fine and all but I think I agree with Pat here. If your friend is really like that then the only thing that would teach is to learn from his mistakes.


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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    But it's better to save someone before he falls down a cliff and breaks his limbs, isn't it? That's only the devil in you wanting that person to get hurt for not following your advice, it's a selfish reason. If you don't want a person to get hurt, you better not put him through unneeded suffering to reach that goal.

    Yet, I have that certain person too, did all I can, so did every of his friends, so did everyone in his family. I admit I gave him up already, but what can one do... damn it! I lecture but can't follow my own advice. He's free to do whatevery he wants, seems to be an execuse, but that's how our society works between adults.
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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

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    But it's better to save someone before he falls down a cliff and breaks his limbs, isn't it? That's only the devil in you wanting that person to get hurt for not following your advice, it's a selfish reason. If you don't want a person to get hurt, you better not put him through unneeded suffering to reach that goal.

    Yet, I have that certain person too, did all I can, so did every of his friends, so did everyone in his family. I admit I gave him up already, but what can one do... damn it! I lecture but can't follow my own advice. He's free to do whatevery he wants, seems to be an execuse, but that's how our society works between adults.
    You can't save someone. Anyone who thinks they can might as well call themselves Holden Caulfield

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    One can certainly have a chance at saving someone from doing a big mistakes, doesn't mean it will work for everyone though. That someone has to change/comply to save him/herself thought. Not going to work with people with big of an ego or those who have lost their shame somewhere back. Or at least admit to have any problems at all.
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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Schabrak View Post
    One can certainly have a chance at saving someone from doing a big mistakes, doesn't mean it will work for everyone though. That someone has to change/comply to save him/herself thought. Not going to work with people with big of an ego or those who have lost their shame somewhere back. Or at least admit to have any problems at all.
    Yeah I agree. I suppose I was merely focused on the word "save" here. Short of intervening in some physical manner to literally "save them from themselves", you can't really do it. You can only be supportive and honest.

    Just being anal

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    One of those many vices to get rid of. haha
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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    I didn't mean we should keep our opinions to ourselves and watch our friends suffer.

    Like Gary said, you can be honest with him and tell him what you think about his plans, the rest is up to him. We can't force our advices on anyone, being smarter than someone doesn't give us the right to interfere in that person's personal affairs.

    And I wonder if Milly's talking about himself in third person.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyagi View Post
    I didn't mean we should keep our opinions to ourselves and watch our friends suffer.

    Like Gary said, you can be honest with him and tell him what you think about his plans, the rest is up to him. We can't force our advices on anyone, being smarter than someone doesn't give us the right to interfere in that person's personal affairs.

    And I wonder if Milly's talking about himself in third person.
    I didn't mean that either

    Exactly

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyagi View Post
    You're too harsh on your "friend". Making stupid decisions is part of the "gaining experience" process, hopefully he'll learn from his mistakes and find the right way.
    The little fuck deserves the harshness. How many times has he complained about stuff, and ignored advice of everyone that tried to help him out? And then he says retarded stuff, and comes up with excuses as result. Making stupid decisions is okay, but making completely retarded decisions that only kids would make is NOT okay. And this guy is like, a year older than I am.

    The problem got resolved, but it was a day after he finally listened to our advice. Basically, I was right about everything that would have happened. And he kept being naive. -_-

    You'd definitely get annoyed if your friend kept on fucking up and not listening to you, despite whining a lot and you trying to help him out. I even told him he's an idiot and needs to stop listening to himself, and start listening to people that have his best interests at heart, considering how he's always wrong, and we're usually right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schabrak View Post
    But it's better to save someone before he falls down a cliff and breaks his limbs, isn't it? That's only the devil in you wanting that person to get hurt for not following your advice, it's a selfish reason. If you don't want a person to get hurt, you better not put him through unneeded suffering to reach that goal.

    Yet, I have that certain person too, did all I can, so did every of his friends, so did everyone in his family. I admit I gave him up already, but what can one do... damn it! I lecture but can't follow my own advice. He's free to do whatevery he wants, seems to be an execuse, but that's how our society works between adults.
    What's the point though, if he will refuse to listen to you no matter what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyagi View Post
    And I wonder if Milly's talking about himself in third person.
    I'm not. I'm not a dumbass, and despite what you guys think, I'm sufficiently smart enough to not get in that kind of trouble.

    I've complained about this guy to Zat before.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    Leave him be, MJ. Everybody falls the first time. He would get beaten pretty badly, get shaken, but will find a way to live through.
    If someone is smart enough, that person won't take a friend's / other person's advice for serious. That's exactly the same thing with being a kid. Words will never get through people. They will just keep living their life the way they perceive and believe or reject.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    Not to change the topics from M3J's situation. I'm just rambling on from mines.

    I'm just using this place to vent -

    Its best to be honest and get the point across...

    Even if I have to hurt someone.

    Was talking to the same girl from before she called me cause she wanted to talk.

    I figured I made my point clear yesterday but she wanted to talk about it.
    As the talking got started and whatever, she explained things with me about her and why this and that.....

    Before you know it, she said 'how do you feel about me?'

    I told her again that 'I said this yesterday, its still the same, I don't have 'that kind' of feelings for you'.

    Before that point she said, she wants only someone from my ethnicity - she don't want a black guy or white (She's African with west Indian mix). She feels blah blah - not going to make this a long post.

    Maybe it should have been sugar coated somehow... I dont know why I care about this so much - maybe its like Herms says about me being 30 lol.

    This time it seems to have hit home - cus I heard it in her voice and the phone convo ended shortly thereafter...


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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    There is not much thing to say over it, Charlie. Honesty should be kept above the blurred concepts like politeness and it looks like you have been polite enough. I would definitely give up more than a bit from it to shatter the delusional view people may have.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

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    Leave him be, MJ. Everybody falls the first time. He would get beaten pretty badly, get shaken, but will find a way to live through.
    If someone is smart enough, that person won't take a friend's / other person's advice for serious. That's exactly the same thing with being a kid. Words will never get through people. They will just keep living their life the way they perceive and believe or reject.
    Thing is, I don't want to see him fall flat on his face. So many times he's whined about stuff. He claims that the Twitter business is good. WE told him to get a job just in case the Twitter thing falls through, especially since he was complaining about not having enough money and losing his place. He said no, that he doesn't like going with the "norm" and that jobs weren't for him. Then he proceeded to tell his former friend (my current friend), who also tried to help him, that the dumbass did more than his former friend or something, basically talking down to him. Few days later he whined about how we wanted him to fail just because we said that he should have a backup plan and get a job just in case the TWitter thing might fall through. That pissed me off so much. Days or weeks later he complained about how he wasn't making a lot of money and was so close to being homeless due to lack of money since Twitter business was slow, which proved us right. He basically doesn't have an actual job other than Twitter thing because apparently he doesn't like norm/going with the norm and because he doesn't like taking orders and stuff associated with having a job. We called him out and said he's just a lazy shit, which he countered with Twitter requiring work. I have no idea why I still talk to him, but it's entertaining to hear him talk about the shit that goes on. Basically a train wreck waiting to happen, I guess.

    He's a dumbass. A goddamn idiot. That is why he needs to take the advice of people who know better than him. His friend two days ago found a legitimate person willing to buy a Twitter account for $600. But the dumbass friend chose the guy for $1,000, without background check, and said his account got stolen. He was naive and stupid. Then he said the thief would fix his account, despite at least two of us telling him to report it, and that jackshit will happen, and that the thief will try to sell it. THe next day, I was right, and he finally took action and got his account back. This wouldn't have happened if he listened to his friend.

    I find it hard to leave anyone alone when they need help. I'm too nice for my own good. But yeah, I should just stop giving him advice or trying to help him out. I was successful for few days, suggested something, and ended up giving him advice that he ignored for a day.

    The only reason why there isn't more expletives is 'cuz I'm a mod.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    Not to change the topics from M3J's situation. I'm just rambling on from mines.

    I'm just using this place to vent -

    Its best to be honest and get the point across...

    Even if I have to hurt someone.

    Was talking to the same girl from before she called me cause she wanted to talk.

    I figured I made my point clear yesterday but she wanted to talk about it.
    As the talking got started and whatever, she explained things with me about her and why this and that.....

    Before you know it, she said 'how do you feel about me?'

    I told her again that 'I said this yesterday, its still the same, I don't have 'that kind' of feelings for you'.

    Before that point she said, she wants only someone from my ethnicity - she don't want a black guy or white (She's African with west Indian mix). She feels blah blah - not going to make this a long post.

    Maybe it should have been sugar coated somehow... I dont know why I care about this so much - maybe its like Herms says about me being 30 lol.

    This time it seems to have hit home - cus I heard it in her voice and the phone convo ended shortly thereafter...
    I don't give a shit about topic change, feel free to do it if you want. Don't worry about it.

    Personally, I would say not to marry her if you don't want to. She's being an idiot about marrying. Don't ever marry because you feel pressured, you won't be happy. Focus on being happy first, because marriages won't last if the two parties don't love each other or feel they have to get married. Don't worry about your age, focus on finding the right person, whether male or female. Age is just a number, a spouse is someone you have to live for a long time, who can take a lot of your money if she divorces. D:

    Make sure you and whoever you want to marry will be happy in the marriage, love each other, and have no pressure to get married before you marry.

    A lot of females and even some males I know are in their thirties or late thirties but not married, and they're happy because they're living their lives the way they want, even if they do sometimes feel lonely. But we all feel lonely one way or another.

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    Re: The MangaHelpers Confessional Thread - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Thing is, I don't want to see him fall flat on his face. So many times he's whined about stuff. He claims that the Twitter business is good. WE told him to get a job just in case the Twitter thing falls through, especially since he was complaining about not having enough money and losing his place. He said no, that he doesn't like going with the "norm" and that jobs weren't for him. Then he proceeded to tell his former friend (my current friend), who also tried to help him, that the dumbass did more than his former friend or something, basically talking down to him. Few days later he whined about how we wanted him to fail just because we said that he should have a backup plan and get a job just in case the TWitter thing might fall through. That pissed me off so much. Days or weeks later he complained about how he wasn't making a lot of money and was so close to being homeless due to lack of money since Twitter business was slow, which proved us right. He basically doesn't have an actual job other than Twitter thing because apparently he doesn't like norm/going with the norm and because he doesn't like taking orders and stuff associated with having a job. We called him out and said he's just a lazy shit, which he countered with Twitter requiring work. I have no idea why I still talk to him, but it's entertaining to hear him talk about the shit that goes on. Basically a train wreck waiting to happen, I guess.

    He's a dumbass. A goddamn idiot. That is why he needs to take the advice of people who know better than him. His friend two days ago found a legitimate person willing to buy a Twitter account for $600. But the dumbass friend chose the guy for $1,000, without background check, and said his account got stolen. He was naive and stupid. Then he said the thief would fix his account, despite at least two of us telling him to report it, and that jackshit will happen, and that the thief will try to sell it. THe next day, I was right, and he finally took action and got his account back. This wouldn't have happened if he listened to his friend.

    I find it hard to leave anyone alone when they need help. I'm too nice for my own good. But yeah, I should just stop giving him advice or trying to help him out. I was successful for few days, suggested something, and ended up giving him advice that he ignored for a day.

    The only reason why there isn't more expletives is 'cuz I'm a mod.
    The only explanation I can come up with tells me that you aren't real friends. When I call someone friend, I won't be pissed off at whatever he might throw at me, whatever lowly opinion he might have about me and so on. On the other hand, if a friend offers me his help, no matter how idiotic his ideas might be, I'll return him a smile.
    I'd slap him out of his comfort zone to hell. Just let him fall. He will come to understand who he cares about and whether he wants to live or not.

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