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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
Basically Ichigo can subconsciously regain his Reiatsu while fighting because of his Quincy side. The reason why it's pretty much useless to use the medallion on him in HM is because that area is pretty much filled with Reiatsu so it would be pretty impossible to draw the Bankai out of him since he can regain Reiatsu quicker then they can draw it out of him. Basicallly in a sense it's like they can steal 10% of his bankai every 10 seconds but ichigo can regain 10% of his Reiatsu every 5 seconds, so the effects of the medallion won't work since it can successfully draw out Ichigo's Bankai since said Reiatsu is always regenerating itself.
The one thing I don't get: Espadas' Ressurection is pretty similar to Shinigamis' Ban Kai. At least, in the terms of sheer power.
We all remember how Soi Fong and Hitsugaya were owned by Halibel and Barragan, despite using Ban Kai at their full potential. Even that scary move of Hitsugaya - Hyouten Hyakkasou - wasn't able to finish off Halibel.
And noooow... How come Halibel was owned so badly and captured? Just outnumbered? Or the Blackbeard is that strong? So they cannot steal Arrancars' Ressurection (and they can't, cause Halibel was shown in her ressurected state), that's for sure. I doubt any of the Sternritters have a chance to defeat Halibel one-on-one, only by swarming. But (!) it was clearly stated that Halibel wasn't any trouble for Blackbeard. And that's pissing me off. Hey, c'mon! How can SUCH powerful guy just pop-up out of nowhere? I don't like it at all. And Shinigami Intel Squad is so cheap - cannot gather any information at all.
Personally, I don't think that Ichigo would save the day. Yes, he'll manage to boost SS's side a lot, but that would be too trivial for him to just wipe all quinces alone.
So my predictions:
1. The main rescuers would be Ishida and his father. I would like to see them fighting side-by-side, spitting out very cool phrases 'bout the "true way of a Quincy", not the crappy one new Quinces have chosen
2. Kenpachi will be a big surprise for his opponent. And Ken-chan will go on a bloody rampage, that's for sure.
3. I pray for Espadas to arrive! And not only Grimmjow. Personally I hope, that Noitora was managed to survive. He was my favorite.
And maybe Halibel would be able to escape.
I just can see that image - Grimmjow, Halibel and Noitora staying in the hole of Garganta right above the half-ruined SS saying: "Ha! It's time to help that punny Shinigami!"
4. Well, and of course Mayuri and Urahara will find a way to return Ban Kais to their owners, or at least to block the work of amulets to avoid any further problems for other captains.
well i'd say this is a war that hasnt fully started yet....I think Ichigo is the third party of this war and on his side will be Arrancar, Shinigami, fullbringers and Quincy too, i dont believe this is the same as Ichigo simply joining the shinigami side as he did in the past simply because he felt some sort of allegiance.....i'm sure it'll turn out that way when he finds out the real story of the Quincy/Shinigami war of the past, he'll chose to be on his 'own' side for once...anyways all this to say this gives us a likely scenario where Grimmjow makes an entrance as part of a group out to avenge HM (of course using this as their excuse rather than admitting they've been affected by Ichigo lol)
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how strongly he as a person feels he must protect, to make him realize he shouldnt take his powers for granted, to REALLY make him understand the responsibility side of having so much power, to make him understand that he is a 'protector of the helpless' at heart before anything else, whereas in the first part of bleach it was all a huge rush from begining to the end with no stopping and no time to reflect on what he wants to do with these powers.....i think all this mess in his head (that he had to deal with for 17 months) started when Aizen made him start to ask questions at the end of their fight...Ichigo face back then said alot without having to say much with words
this is what i think the FB arc was mostly about, all that culmunating into him regaining his powers, so it definetly couldnt be looked at as a useless arc, if Aizen made him reach new levels of toughness in terms of power, then Ginjo and co definetly toughened up his mental (which is the resulting Ichigo we see now)
if it was just about Ichigo regaining his powers, imo it didnt have to be THAT complicated/dramatic lol
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imo it may be because he actually got to that final form where he was completely 'one' with all parts of his soul, so even if he is currently unable to reach that level of power, the remnant of it would be a much stronger unbreakable 'LOCK/BOND' of sorts on his Zanpakuto, and thus his Bankai....maybe?.....of course there's still that possibility that it has to do with his lineage as Kubo stated in the repeat and reboot 'people's lineage will play a key role in this upcoming war'
Ichigo has been refered to as a 'true blood' in the past after all....we'll see
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of course u do have a point about us not seeing it (his mask) yet but its jus that were Zangetsu and his hollow still fused then he'd still have that level of power, it seems to me you cant have one without the other so the Hollow has got to still be inside
as far as Hollowfication helping against Quincy i dont see why not, they absorb Reishi so it doesnt matter if ur a Hollow or a Shinigami you're made of the same thing, they should be able to absorb either one
Last edited by SaitoSpike; July 01, 2012 at 08:25 AM.
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/58520789/10 now we have the confirmation that the iacto arme really was there to hunt arrancars.
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http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/58520789/14 oh and that's the reason why Urahara is the best! I really can't but love this character!!!
wonder if grimmjow will appear would not be surprised if he joined the quincys and it the quincy that has his face still covered of the ones who attacked SS
Yeah,I also think that Grimmjow will mostl ikely join the fight together with Ichigo.It seems VERY unlikely that Grimmjow would be one of the Sternrittes,the idea seems ridiculous to me.
Well tbh I don't see this as a war either,to me it seems more like a massacre made by Quincies.I also think that when Ichigo finds out the truth about the Quincy extinction he will ponder whether to help or net the Shinigami,or possibly maintain a neutral ground(reminds of an RPG,The Witcher,under this aspect lol).Then again,I can't see Ichigo doing nothing while the Quincy are mass-murdering Shinigami.Originally Posted by SaitoSpike
Grimjow is one of the most loved characters in Bleach, he's more like doomed to return if anything, considering most key arrancars are making an appearance as it is.
The question is is not "if", but "when" and "how", since he's so popular by many fans, he'll probably get an epic entrance, count on it ;-)
- It could be because he's a substitute Shinigami, but for some reason I would feel a tad bit disappointed if this was the case;
- It could be because he's also got Hollow powers and, as described by an user above, that may interfere with the Bankai stealing process;
- It could be because Ichigo is simply "special" and the reason why he's special will be explained by the end of the manga(or maybe it doesn't need any explanation since he's the main character);
- It could be related to the last arc and all the fullbring stuff(that entire arc is a bit fuzzy in my mind, I really didn't like that arc );
- Maybe when Kubo revealed in an interview that he would go into more detail about Ichigo's mother in this arc, maybe he was referring to the possibility that she was a Quincy and Ichigo got some of her powers, making him immune to the Bankai stealing technique;
- Perhaps an entirely different reason?
About this arc, yes I agree with you, this arc is much more interesting than the last and I only hope that, if this really is the last arc, may Bleach end with a blast!
Rukia speficially explained that, Ginjo stole the top layer of Ichigo's shinigami powers that fused with his FB, and continued on the statement that shinigami power is such thing that u cant actually steal it.
This is the basic preleminaries of the theory. Since u can not steal someone's shinigami powers, but given the circumstances u can actually steal the bankai of them. On the other hand, İchigo's bankai is different than others as Chad said here : http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/445/7 , because the power actually covers FOR him, this could mean that his shinigami powers actually covering his body as his bankai, thus to the 1st statement, u can not steal shinigami powers, so it would be like this.
Personally I got a hunch that Grimjow will be much stronger than he was before, considering his goals and dreams, and he's also kinda a rival to Ichigo.
We know that Renji is rivalling himself with Byakuya, and not so much with Ichigo, so we can leave their (Ichigo - Renji) bond in the past.
So that leaves Ishida the Quincy, and Grimjow the Arrancar, who's both (in a way) friends and rivals at the same time, which no other character in Bleach can say.
We know that Ishida is supposed to be insanely strong from Kirge, and both Quincies Shinigamis' and Arrancars play major roles in this arc already.
- So its not too far fetched to think that Ishida will come out as the strongest Quincy in the end to represent the human world.
- Grimjow could come out as the strongest Arrancar in the end (It's his goal as well), to represent HM.
- Ichigo could come out as the strongest of them all (Naturally since he's the shounen hero), but representing the shinigami realm.
So the trio each represent a realm, and ironically they got a special bonding to Ichigo, both of them.
This leads me to believe that we still got very much to see from Grimjow, he's far from done just yet.
However it could lead to that they come together and make peace in the 3 realms, each taking their responsibilities.
Although they would need a solution for Ishida and other Quincies in the human world not to kill hollows entirely, maybe they can learn special techniques for that and only kill the very strong ones or similar ideas.
In the end, this is a shounen manga where people has a hard time to die and very child friendly, I doubt most Quincies will die, except for the Quincy leaders and Sternritters etc.
So they will have to have a place after all this, and that could be the human world, or maybe even their own realm (They seem to have one, although do they really like it there?).
So back to the initial discussion, didn't put all thoughts on table, but some of it of why I think Grimjow will play a major role in this arc.
The question is, will he appear next chapter before Ichigo leaves? or will he appear later like Ishida seems to be?
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Although not saying 100% that Grimjow will appear, as I'm not Kubo ;o Just the way I write.
But I do find it extremely likely that he eventually will.