One Piece 673 Discussion

[Kaiten]

Exactly, there simply is no reason to involve more recurring characters at the moment. Law should be one of the main characters for at least two or three years, however long it takes to resolve the emerging Doflamingo plot line and defeat a Yonkou. Jinbe will return as soon as Big Mom makes her appearence, whether she is the Yonkou Law plans to defeat or not. There is a good chance Kid reappears then too, he has already been identified as an enemy of Mom. Let Aokiji return when he can be more central to the plot, rather than a supporting character.

[Schabrak]

That being said, I have no idea why anyone would expect Aokiji to be involved with this arc.

It's was one of the earlier theories of what the "important key" may be, not that he's working with DoFlamingo, there is nobody who would have suggested something idiotic as that. Aokiji should be officially out of the picture, now that we got a confirmation of his appearance in the upcoming movie.

[k-dom]

I'm not sure to understand how an appearance in a movie prevents from an appearance in the manga...

[Schabrak]

It takes away from his appearance in the movie. Why should Oda tease us with sketches for the movie in the magazine, while also appearing in this arc, even before he shows up in the theaters?

[k-dom]

velcrofruit lol Velcro is so tacky, a relic of the 80's.

i thought velcro was international, but German likes to make thing differently, they don't even use the word scotch :-)
Velcro is still used a lot in sport and hiking clothes, not that much anymore for shoes though


When is that movie ? the arc is far from finished since we are in the 'loosing' part ( that doesn't mean i'm supporting aokiji theory, just the connexion with the movie )

[BlackHair]

Why would Vegapunk be an WG official sitting in Mary Joa instead of doing some constant research? If you assume that he knows about Doflamingo's secret organisation and it's works, than why would he let CC do that research? Wouldn't that damage his pride as a scientist? Of course Vegapunk doesn't seem to be a nice guy working on prisoners, but he couldn't have liked the gas accident destroying his gigantic research base.

Well he is the man behind the Pacifistas and we have seen Flamingo attacking Moria with a few. Even before that, in the war he explained Kumas situation and his deal with VP to Iva. So basically he had some knowledge and control over VP work. I believe that was the source of my whole "he is Vegapunk" idea. Furthermore Flamingo stated that he is only sticking with him, due to his influence in the WG. He would fit perfectly the role, if u ask me.

VP with his researches is essential for the WG. Having him equals owning a huge amount of battle power, so to speak a Admiral himself. Therefore I think due to his contribution for the WG and MHQ, he became more than just a scientist. Basically he probably has some influence within the WG.

But to begin with, why should Vegapunk be a just science guy any way? I mean just look at CC, he is a scientist himself, yet standing on the front line fighting. Therefore he isn't just a lab guy. The Yonko are originally pirate crews, yet they are build up and behaving like a government or sort of. So I don't think a character should be assigned to just one role.

Anyway, since Flamingo was revealed as the boss of the operation on PH, we can't be sure in how much he is involved with. Maybe he is the one who selected CC to continue the mass destruction and gigantification researches. After all he is the perfect guy to use as a scapegoat.... Well I have quite a few ideas on that, but don't want to bother anyone with it (at the moment xD).


Personally I want Vegapunk to be either

• a bad guy (pure evil)
• good guy who would do anything archive his goal

The name Vegapunk has been occasionally dropped since the CP9 saga. Certainly one of the character Oda has been building up for quite some time. Therefore I don't want him to be a just a another good guy who will end up helping the SHs. I would love him to be a darker guy. Don't necessarily has to be evil. I could picture him easily as a revolutionary who would not hesitate sinning, if it for the greater good. Either way, he has way more potential than just a science guy, who explains the devil fruits.

P.S.: hust = cough :P

Ah' crap.. Deutsch Englisch, hab da was verwechselt, naja spielt keine Rolle xD

[Schabrak]

The movie will come out in december, this arc should be near it's end or finished by than.

Vegapunk is clearly interested in furthering science and his research to better the world. If he sees the pacifista as a way to lessen the burden of the fodder pirates, VP would work for the citizens of WG, making him a good guy Imo. Can't see him being a bad guy, not after the teaser we got on his home island. Also don't see him involving in shichibukai affairs, why would he? What would he gain from killing Moriah off? He could have programmed the original Kuma pacifista to do that, even while keeping his promise of keeping Thousand Sunny functional. The pacifista that DoFlamingo controleld can be used as such as they followthe marines orders, the WG itself might have a code to enable certain masters.

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It's enough that we use tupperware for every container made out of plastic. And of course we use scotch, it's just that whiskys keep being whiskys, even if they come from scotland. Do you use irish or american instead of the brand too?

That's what we call scotch in French :-))

Why would you use a name that doesn't have a meaning, in this case even a misleading one XD Klebeband is perfect, because it directly explains what it's for. :P It's a product at leastm, nonetheless I wouldn't know if I wanted scissors, glue or a tape.

[k-dom]

That's what we call scotch in French :-))

[ukimix]

Final words of Wego at the chapter:

".... and as always, we will dispose of the matter by making it an 'accident'."

could it be possible that... that accident, 4 years ago, was not an accident at all?

Kind of impossible, but, if I'm not wrong, those versions we have read about what happened in that moment belong to Smoker, Law, CC and Brownbeard. Could all of them have been deceived?

[mattiaildivino]

CC already explained that it was not an accident but it was his experiment to erase life from a so green island,whereas Vegapunk was strongly against that. I doubt the other marines got in the way or that CC was already "working",nay, in league with doflamingo.

[matzik1212]

No i think he was referring to those incidents that involved the children kidnapping . Now he most likely means he'll make the death of Smoker and Tashigi an accident

[ukimix]

No i think he was referring to those incidents that involved the children kidnapping . Now he most likely means he'll make the death of Smoker and Tashigi an accident

Of course he does that, beautiful moderator. But my question goes this way: if that organization makes children kidnapping and Smoker and Tashigi's deaths "accidents", then couldn’t it be possible that a so called and famous accident happened 4 years ago, was not an accident at all?

[BlackHair]

[..] then couldn’t it be possible that a so called and famous accident happened 4 years ago, was not an accident at all?

CC already confirmed the incident. It was a failed experiment, a accident. But CC seems to have different opinion, either way, it is not a cover-up. So Matt was right.

[mattiaildivino]

btw,I've some thoughts on my mind... ... when there are corrupted marines,who want to kill smoker...I don't know why but I feel as if aokiji were about to appear and to freeze vergo,monet,CC,doflamingo and the other jerks . surely he would be able to do that.

[matzik1212]

Yeah i agree with mattiaildivino and BlackHair . What happened 4y ago was an accident . I can't see more than that . Besides there are enough mysteries already

About Aokiji . I see you guys made an obsession with the guy since you saw those frozen prisoners and since we found out he disappeared but i personally don't see the point of making him appear right now . We have enough strong characters involved already so i don't see where Aokiji would fit in all this