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Moderator message by: matzikIn the 1st place the guy isn't even mentioned in this chapter and there have been many predictions already . I don't see the point of prolonging the talk about him here in the chapter discussion thread which is made to talk about the current chapter , when we have a special made thread already about Aokiji .
When he'll appear then you're free to talk about him but till then i want to see a talk more about the current events which are the most important . Thank You
Last edited by matzik1212; July 07, 2012 at 04:10 PM.
Why should Law reveal his weakness to Luffy and co ? They barely know each other and he is not Luffy to grant his trust without precaution.Quote:
Plus I don't really understand your logic, why would it make more sense plot wise to have Law explanation rather than Vergo or how CC defeated the crew ? The cliffhanger was for Do Flamingo to be explained, isn't it more logic to have the explanation of their relation afterwards ?
It would be such a nice plot, with Luffy fighting Dofla, and trying to return favors to Law
You want reasons to support this theory? I can not give you conclusive reasons or evidence. I only can say: "this fits with this and also with that", but mainly I want to say: it would be fucking awesome (and I enjoy to say it). So my reasons are mainly aesthetics, (and then subjectives). After all, in these forums it doesn't have sense at all to criticize a theory if that theory is still possible; because of most of those theories are only wishes. Here, the sentence: "I predict X" only means, in proper logic: "I would like to happen X" or "I bet it would happens X". When someone hits the mark it is just a matter of chance, not of logic.
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Btw, Luffy, Robin and Co, seems to be healthy. That gas CC used to beat them must be some kind of soporific gas, not a toxic one. CC seems to be a bad joke. Something is wrong with that character. He got permission to kill SHs, and tried to do it with his weapons,... and then when he used his own powers on them he just put them to sleep? He may not know how to kill Luffy, since poison doesn't work on him, but what about Robin and Frankie? At least that he have received some counter-instructions, this is weak development of plot. Any ideas to find some sense to those results of CC's attack on Robin and Frankie?
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But I do really like the arc..
Last edited by ukimix; July 07, 2012 at 10:39 PM.
Facts: Dofla knows Law is in PH and Vergo was in Dress Rosa, Not facts: Dofla was in dress rosa too and that island is his base in the NW, then he gives Vergo Law´s heart so he can go and defeat him.
Another theory, Vergo doesn´t have Law´s heart but he and Dofla know that those without heart have a particular weakness, thus Vergo is bad match against Law and Smoker (this time Dofla keeps the heart for himself).
I don't really like this heart theory either. If that was true, Law couldn't have possibly wanted to kidnap CC, that is just suicide. As soon as his betrayal was known his heart could be use as hostage.
The only thing is that Smoker heart is in the enemies hand, so in his case, getting out of jail is only one part of the issue.
it's not so hard to understand how a weapon as the gas slime ate a DF: CC worked with Vegapunk,hence he may know how vegapunk developed the device to let inanimate objects eat DFs. and even if CC didn't learn it trough Vegapunk,since he is the numer 2 of the scientists,he could have discovered it by himself.
What I mean to say is, the heart theory is pretty ridiculous yes, the first time I heard about it, my first thought was like "how do people make these theories up? This theory is the weirdest thing I've heard in a long time". But when we think about it, there have already been some crazy and unpredictable events happening in One Piece that would have made anyone laught if someone had foreseen those moments happening, before they actually appeared in the manga.
All of this just to say that yes, in one hand this heart theory is strange and the plot could have nothing to do with it, in fact all the time we are spending here could be wasted time, but on the other hand it wouldn't be the weirdest thing that have ever happened in One Piece and I think people coming up with ridiculous theories and discussing about it with other people only makes the forum better and more interesting to read. I, for once, don't usually come up with theories very often, I am a pretty straightforward reader, I take what I get and rarely start connecting dots so that's why I find reading forums good entertainment, what I am reading could never happen in the manga but it's always fun to open your mind to possibilities and wonder if "what this guy is saying in the forum could be true and what would this lead to...".
How bout if Virgo has eaten the static (paramacia) fruit? It'd explain the food always sticking to his face (more specifically his facial hair). A static shock could've easily stunned and caused internal damage to Law's circulatory system assuming he's got metal (like a sword etc.) on him that can act as a lightning rod of sorts like using a defibrillator on a normal heart. The way he treated Law a few chapters ago made it seem like he was using a remote control thingamajig to cause pain without any movement; but that would've required some implant that Law probably could've easily removed (if that was the case). If it really turns out to be a static like ability, Virgo will be an easy match for Luffy for the same reason Enel was ineffective.
Anyways, when Doflamingo was revealed to be the mastermind behind the secret organization, it immediately made me think of his encounter with Crocodile during the Marineford War when he asked if Crocodile wanted to join him. Back then I didn't really think twice about what Doflamingo could even be doing that having Crocodile joining would help him with. But now it turns out that he also had a secret organization that's probably older and more wide spread than Crocodile's was. This is also making me wonder if Crocodile and Mr. 1 will show up in the near future (maybe after the straw hats leave Punk Hazard and go after Doflamingo) since they seem to have some unfinished competition from before the time skip... at least it'd be an okay time for them to come back into the story. Then again, I guess Moria has unfinished business with Doflamingo too *shrugs*
I've also been wondering if we'll be given more information about World Government's secret activities soon...weird stuff that's been going on for hundreds of years like the building of that bridge where Robin was sent off to by Kuma, and the experiments on making giants and weapons of mass destruction. Will Doflamingo out the "higher up" world government official that he had been working for right after the Marineford War before all this is over?
Next chapter we might get to know a bit more about CC's experiment that he's setting up to do. Considering how everybody outside the research facility is supposed to die, it better turn out to be a blast.
P.S. Aokiji... j/k +1 to what matzik1212 said.
Last edited by Anduren; July 08, 2012 at 04:57 PM.
I'm curious if the next cover will finally be a cover story now that all the strawhats have been shown in the fan requests covers.
Related to the heart theory, I wrote in this thread about Law suffering heart disease lol. The possibility of his heart disease might be low, but I don't think it's too far away. I believe he has a problem with his heart anyway.
first time posting here, I love when someone come up with a theory, but I don't understand the Law's heart one... If I'm right, you think that Donflamingo or someone else, could have take his heart and this is why he is on his knees. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we clearly see that when Law took Smoker's heart and put it in Tashigi, she had his DF ability. So how in hell could Law still use his DF ability without his heart ? This theory makes no sense in my opinion with that example given by Oda.
So there should be another reason to Law suffering when Vergo came. Perhaps a weakness or something else. I don't think too that it's from Vergo's DF ability, I'm totally presuming but he could have something like the "sticky sticky fruit" because stuff seems to stick at him (hamburgers...).
I have no idea of what is going to happen next, and that's what i love about One Piece !
i don't know why but all the story seems familiar to me.
A secret organisation at the beginning of grand line (beginning of the half), with a shishibukai at his head (but he takes a name code so no one knows of course) and of course a person who was once part of the organisation with luffy (law = new vivi). Not to forget Smoker as a main character
Looks like Barock Works for me ( Crocodile can call plagiat this time)