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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
Anyway it might be also that now that we are starting to get more familiar with haki , Oda is trying to find a way for us to recognize the 3 types by adding them certain effects
Still i like my theory so till Oda gives us more hints i'll stick with this . And besides i'm sure if Oda made Vista's sword suddenly turn black , without all this knowledge about haki he would have lost me along the way
Maybe, because that was a time before the time-skip, more clearly, before Silvers[Oda] gave us a good introduction, confirming[a bit retconning] all kinds of appearances of haki[1st chapter Shanks, Mantra, Rayleigh vs Kizaru] to be of some form of haki. He had no reason to color it black before it was fully introduced to us, before it became of importance for likely most future boss fights. I can imagine Oda having the concept in his head, foreshadowing here and there until and than he gave us a new perspective on the whole haki situation.
Last edited by Schabrak; July 11, 2012 at 06:16 PM.
Oda introduced CoC at the start of the series with us having no knowledge on haki and he clearly planned the features of the other colours out well in advance too so it's strange that he's suddenly marking CoA usage out like this and causing continuity problems
Before haki was fully explained, Oda had us in suspense the whole time. Haki was labeled as mysterious force, until its explanation. Only after then we knew exactly what haki was. So I think with Oda confirming haki, he added an additional visual feature. Just to make sure we are informed whenever haki is used. By adding a visual effect, Oda also saves the trouble of confirming haki usage by side characters. That is why I don't think black hardening is just limited to Luffy.
Anyway, I don't think the consistency has been disturbed. It is just that before Haki was fully explained, it was a mysterious force. By explaining it in detail, Oda (might have) wrapped it up by adding a visual feature.
As strong as Vergo: We don't know. If Luffy was capable of using CoC on Law to take him down, Law's whole plan to become a pirate king would be for naught after all the preperation and his speech to take down a Yonkou. Withstanding Silvers, but not Vergo would be weird and illogical.
Or did you mean the black bamboo stick? A hard hit by a v.a. should be able to take down an already weakened Trafalgar.
Last edited by Schabrak; July 11, 2012 at 07:02 PM.
I'm sure things will get clear in the future for now let's change the topic and make even crazier prediction
Here's mine : Chopper will use his rumble ball and use horn point to dig a tunnel to reach Luffy &co. Go Chopper
panel 1. Law intended to attack Vergo, but was stopped midway by Vergo. That is definitely not haki related. Similar case here, Law is crumbling down, while grabbing his heart and spitting blood. The symptoms do not match with conquerors haki or whatever haki.
Tbh I don't see any real problem in Caesar. I easily him defeated by simple brute force and advanced speed. Shouldn't be any problem for the monster trio. Only haki is needed. His ability is tricky indeed, but can be overcome by speed, imo.
Could be that there are still things about CoA that we have yet to find out, I highly doubt we know all there is to know about haki at this point. Maybe there are different forms of CoA with the darkening of the skin representing a particular form.
chapter 672. CoC has also been shown capable of influencing people and controlling them, even taming animals.
Last edited by Kaiten; July 11, 2012 at 07:45 PM.
As to Luffy, each time he uses CoA, the particular body part turns black. Doesn't have to be Gear 3. For instance here, he is using CoA in normal form (Gear 1 xD) and yet it turns black.
Diable Jambe might work similar to that. Because it seems since the time skip, Sanji doesn't have to rotate (or whatever he does) anymore. Due to his haki control it seems he can produce heat without rapid movements. Not sure though, just guessing here.
Anyway, I don't expect any further haki explanation. Oda invested almost a whole chapter to that already. I think we are done with that. But even if, I'm pretty sure we won't get any new skills based on haki. That is something Im definitely sure about.