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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Neither speed or a Bijuu partner are guarantee answers, as we have seen.

    Anyway, given the way things have been goings, the series seems more focus on shoring up Sasuke's reasoning and motivation then having him look for more power. And as long as his EMS power is kept under wraps, there may not be any reason for another power up.

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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood View Post
    Actually Naruto has an answer to both, Amaterasu is useless with Naruto's speed and Tskuyomi is too with Kyuubi aiding him.
    Also I doubt Naruto will fight Naruto in full bijuu mode, like he didn't use Gamabunta to instantly stomp him during the VOTE, it will be a physical battle between two humanoids.
    Unless Sasuke whips out Perfect Susano'o.

    Also don't get me started on the whole Kyuubi/Sharingan value argument, please, we would only go off topic.

    Unless we make a scenario when Kyuubi is extracted and Sasuke reclaims the Bijuu that Tobi owns him, that bijuu being Kurama, so Sasuke would pull a Madara and ride his loyal fox around the nation
    If I remember correctly , Nagato warned Naruto about Itachi Amatrouso but NAruto couldn't react against it .... and if he go to bijju mode , he would become greatest target for sasuke , unless you saying QB can dodge Amatrousu ...

    and Tsukiumi , come on , both Naruto and QB are like shit against Tsukimui , well , in fact they are useless against normal sharingan genjutsu , and we still didn't see what Sasuke can do in a real fight with his EMS ...

    why people forget that Madara using QB as his pet with EMS , why people undersmitead EMS , this is only because Sasuke didn't want kill Kabuto !?
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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Madara used kyubi as his pet, but he never done in the manga that he control the kyubi when it has already in a jinchuuriki. Controlling the kyubi is different from controlling the kyubi's jinchuuriki. Big difference pal.

    And the kyubi doesn't need to dodge amaterasu, BM naruto can repel that attack by their shinra tensie type of power. Remember how BM naruto repel/push all the bijuu at once? yeah. Sasuke will be going to eat his own amaterasu.

    Sasuke's tsukuyomi is a weak. So it can never harm naruto and kyubi. And we haven't seen naruto with his BM/BM full transformation yet in the actual fight.

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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    Madara used kyubi as his pet, but he never done in the manga that he control the kyubi when it has already in a jinchuuriki. Controlling the kyubi is different from controlling the kyubi's jinchuuriki. Big difference pal.

    And the kyubi doesn't need to dodge amaterasu, BM naruto can repel that attack by their shinra tensie type of power. Remember how BM naruto repel/push all the bijuu at once? yeah. Sasuke will be going to eat his own amaterasu.

    Sasuke's tsukuyomi is a weak. So it can never harm naruto and kyubi. And we haven't seen naruto with his BM/BM full transformation yet in the actual fight.
    these only your guss ,

    first , Amaterasu isn't Bijju doma , so you can't say QB can repel Amaterasu , second is that we are talking about EMS Sasuke , and you can't say his Genjutsu is weak , when Naruto achieve QB help thanks to his Mother and Father help , Sasuke achieve stronger eyes ...
    simply he could strengthen his Genjutus , just like what he did during all these time , in first part he even hadn't Sharingan and now he active his EMS ....

    well , the problem is that Naruto hadn't answer for Sasuke base sharingan .....

    third thing is fighting with a human is completely different to fighting with monsters ....

    well , I knew Naruto is main character and he will have some advantage , just look at this war , Tobi didn't use any Rinnegan Jutsu or even his Sharingan Genjutus , why because if use those ability , main character would be raped in just less than 5 minutes ...

    The only real thing that Naruto have is well known advantage of main character in shonen manga .... that mean no matter how strong their opponents are , they can do a damn thing against main character , because writers will give them and opportunely to win ...
    Last edited by shafagh; July 11, 2012 at 01:45 AM.
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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    No, i'm not talking the bijuu dama thing, The 5 or 6 bijuu who attack BM naruto. Then BM naruto repel/push them through the force of his roar. And sasuke's base sharingan isn't an issue anymore to naruto. He can activate his sage mode/RM to cancel that genjutsu. Honestly, you're just making naruto as if he was still in part 1. Tobi who needs the kyubi and the haschibi for his plan. So tobi must use everything to get both naruto and bee, but he never done that. Why? because naruto and bee are powerful enough to kick his butt. It doesn't have a plot hole. Naruto is just too strong for tobi to handle. That's the reason he was just using the 7 jins paths. Without them, tobi is already been defeated by naruto and bee.

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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    No, i'm not talking the bijuu dama thing, The 5 or 6 bijuu who attack BM naruto. Then BM naruto repel/push them through the force of his roar. And sasuke's base sharingan isn't an issue anymore to naruto. He can activate his sage mode/RM to cancel that genjutsu. Honestly, you're just making naruto as if he was still in part 1. Tobi who needs the kyubi and the haschibi for his plan. So tobi must use everything to get both naruto and bee, but he never done that. Why? because naruto and bee are powerful enough to kick his butt. It doesn't have a plot hole. Naruto is just too strong for tobi to handle. That's the reason he was just using the 7 jins paths. Without them, tobi is already been defeated by naruto and bee.
    you ignore the main point , Amatrusu isn't bijju doma ..... for example , maybe third raikage could tank Naruto rasen shorickn ( Mini biju doma + wind element ) but I'm sure he can't do a damn thing against Amatrusu ....

    and I wonder why people saying Third Raikage has more stronger body than his son , In fact his Son could use lighting transformation with ease and no one scratch his body through his lighting armor before his fight with Sasuke ...
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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    Neither speed or a Bijuu partner are guarantee answers, as we have seen.

    Anyway, given the way things have been goings, the series seems more focus on shoring up Sasuke's reasoning and motivation then having him look for more power. And as long as his EMS power is kept under wraps, there may not be any reason for another power up.
    Depends, against Sasuke they were a definite answer.

    Actually Suigetsu speaks about a power contained in that scroll, which Sasuke seemingly wanting to have it with Orochimaru's help, together with him leading him to the ones that knows everything.
    EMS isn't sufficient to deal with actual Naruto, unless Naruto gets his Kyuubi extracted, they aren't even comparable unless severe PIS is involved

    Quote Originally Posted by shafagh View Post
    If I remember correctly , Nagato warned Naruto about Itachi Amatrouso but NAruto couldn't react against it .... and if he go to bijju mode , he would become greatest target for sasuke , unless you saying QB can dodge Amatrousu ...

    and Tsukiumi , come on , both Naruto and QB are like shit against Tsukimui , well , in fact they are useless against normal sharingan genjutsu , and we still didn't see what Sasuke can do in a real fight with his EMS ...

    why people forget that Madara using QB as his pet with EMS , why people undersmitead EMS , this is only because Sasuke didn't want kill Kabuto !?
    He didn't do a thing because Amaterasu didn't even came close to hit him, would you dodge a ball that lands 10 meters from you?

    Kyuubi is useless against Madara's genjutsus, which are on a whole different world from Sasuke's, also because Sasuke's main forte never was and never will be genjutsu. That was always Itachi's main field of expertise.

    Madara used Kyuubi as his pet with the 3 tomoe, because he is Madara.
    It is clearly stated and showed that Madara is on a whole different level from any other Uchiha in the manga, and Sasuke is underestimated because his performance against Kabuto, for plot reasons and to hype Itachi, was pitiful.

    Quote Originally Posted by shafagh View Post
    and I wonder why people saying Third Raikage has more stronger body than his son , In fact his Son could use lighting transformation with ease and no one scratch his body through his lighting armor before his fight with Sasuke ...
    Simple, Third Raikage tanked a FRS which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chidori against a Raiton user since its way more powerful and has the element advantage while A was wounded by a simple Chidori.
    A's only worth nowadays is trying to bully 16 years old and getting schooled in the process

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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood View Post
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    Simple, Third Raikage tanked a FRS which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chidori against a Raiton user since its way more powerful and has the element advantage while A was wounded by a simple Chidori.
    A's only worth nowadays is trying to bully 16 years old and getting schooled in the process
    the problem is that he get stab but his own lighting chakra blade that was exactly like chidori ( stronger version ) ..... this isn't math ....
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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by shafagh View Post
    the problem is that he get stab but his own lighting chakra blade that was exactly like chidori ( stronger version ) ..... this isn't math ....
    i don't exactly see the chidori comparison here

    chidori was known as something with huge cutting power, but the raikage's spear was known as the unstoppable spear

    one of them is high up there, but one of them is exactly on top

    sasuke's chidori might not even penetrate the third raikage's armour. he barely touched the 4th

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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood View Post
    Depends, against Sasuke they were a definite answer.

    Actually Suigetsu speaks about a power contained in that scroll, which Sasuke seemingly wanting to have it with Orochimaru's help, together with him leading him to the ones that knows everything.
    EMS isn't sufficient to deal with actual Naruto, unless Naruto gets his Kyuubi extracted, they aren't even comparable unless severe PIS is involved
    How are they definite answers? Sasuke's just as good with his regular genjutsu as Itachi and is noted to be more skilled with Amaterasu.

    The power in the scroll seems to be implied to be some sort of technique, not any sort of upgrade. And from the way it's spoken about, it contains a way to turn the war in one's favor, not specifically win. Why wouldn't EMS be enough or PIS have to be involved? Aside from us not knowing want Sasuke's EMS does just yet, Naruto's hardly some complex opponent from what we have seen of him fighting Tobi. All Naruto really has going for him now is raw power and speed, both of which are limited and can be gotten around depending on how well Sasuke's Susanoo and reflexes have grown.

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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Its blatently obvious he's gonna get an upgrade.. Naruto would easily overpower him now.. do you honestly think Susanoo can withstand a Bijuudama.

    I would actually like to see Rinnegan but not all the powers handed to him on a plate.. I want to see him slowly adjusting to them..

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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zachc2009 View Post
    Its blatently obvious he's gonna get an upgrade.. Naruto would easily overpower him now.. do you honestly think Susanoo can withstand a Bijuudama.

    I would actually like to see Rinnegan but not all the powers handed to him on a plate.. I want to see him slowly adjusting to them..
    the problem is that we still didn't see his EMS power , all he doing was toying with some Zetsu .... he is just like Madara and Itachi , that mean he won't use his ultimate jutsu to cutting down some weakiling ninjas .... even Naruto didn't use QB mode to cutting down some zetsu , simply his RM was more than enough ....
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    Oh also to the person at the beginning of this thread Sasuke's MS reappearing was a flashback.. look at his collar it was unzipped.

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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Maybe, but why he would he have a flas back of himself?

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    Re: Unknown power and Power ups left for Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by shafagh View Post
    the problem is that he get stab but his own lighting chakra blade that was exactly like chidori ( stronger version ) ..... this isn't math ....
    No, the Hell Finger has the same principle of Chidori but is infinitely more powerful, also proved when Sasuke didn't even grazed A, which is way inferior to his father, while Hell Finger pratically destroyed the Third Raikage's body

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    How are they definite answers? Sasuke's just as good with his regular genjutsu as Itachi and is noted to be more skilled with Amaterasu.

    The power in the scroll seems to be implied to be some sort of technique, not any sort of upgrade. And from the way it's spoken about, it contains a way to turn the war in one's favor, not specifically win. Why wouldn't EMS be enough or PIS have to be involved? Aside from us not knowing want Sasuke's EMS does just yet, Naruto's hardly some complex opponent from what we have seen of him fighting Tobi. All Naruto really has going for him now is raw power and speed, both of which are limited and can be gotten around depending on how well Sasuke's Susanoo and reflexes have grown.
    No, Sasuke is leagues behind Itachi in the genjutsu department, really.
    Even if he was equal to Itachi, Bee still shrugged off his genjutsu thanks to Hachibi, so really genjutsu isn't even an issue.
    And Amaterasu can be avoided, again, by speed.

    Simple, because a single Bijuudama would obliterate Susano'o and Sasuke with it since it wasn't able to withstand a Fuuton from Danzou, even empowered as it was, and his reflexes still couldn't catch A with V2, which was inferior to Chakra Mode, which is infinitely inferior to Bijuu Mode.
    We saw with Kabuto what Sasuke can do, his so called outstanding reflexes didn't let him react to Hakugeki, nor Fuuki Tensei, nor Itachi being splitted in half, hell he was also overwhelmed by Kabuto's Suiton.
    Its the plain truth that Sasuke needs an upgrade, be it Perfect Susano'o or Rin'negan

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