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Translations: Gintama 515 by kewl0210
Last edited by Gats; July 18, 2012 at 07:47 AM.
Though the chapter was ok, it also felt a bit confusing for some reason. I mean it was really difficult to follow what was actually happening.
Tiny crack....ok. I saw some comment in the previous chapter thread about Minato being a beast etc. Of course he was but Tobi was different person back then...He ahd less power and he really underestimated Minato... When you fight against three strong opponents there's no place for undervaluation. But I still hope that Naruto learned something when he watched his father fight against Tobi and we we'll get something similar sooner or later but with Bijuu-dama.
I agree. But I must say that Tobi is fighting surprisingly well. I thought the fight will go directly in Naruto's favor but it seems not even Kakashi's and Gai's help isn't enough to make at least a bigger crack than that.
Indeed I'll have to reread it a few times to comprehend everything that was happening. Ok chapter, one thing is certain Tobi is no chump.
Last edited by BASED Shinigami; July 25, 2012 at 04:14 AM.
chapter is out
Oh and the hell happened with Naruto's speed...he suppouse to be as fast as Minato with his flying thunder god technique...I soo hate when Kishi does that...he uses something awesome then forgets about it for like 100 chapters to make it feel more dramatic when he'll use it again...That's lame...if it will end with Naruto beating crap out of Tobi thanks to his new found speed Kakashi should say something like:
- Ok Naruto that's really cool but next time you should start with that.
The problem is, he can only do that when he's moving in a straight line. He can't reach his top speed when he's zig-zagging all over the place because his reflexes aren't anywhere as good as Minato's (yet). Naruto is fast, but he's got a long way to go until he reaches Minato's base speed and reflexes.
Wow, looks like Tobi is fighting at top form here, especially considering he's taking all three on without much effort. And it does look as if Tobi could counter Kamui had he needed to. Interesting to see he wasn't just talking big.
Finally a chapter showing some action. Actually, full of action!
And a couple of interesting developments too. What really surprised me, is that Tobi turns out to be a pretty strong fighter himself after all. I always had the impression he was pretty weak, but hiding behind his summons/Gedo Mazo...
I'm not a fan of the Tobi=Obito theory but at the very least it is heavily suggested in this chapter that Tobi at least possesses Obito's eye.
- It has exactly the opposite powers as Kakashi's Sharingan
- Tobi "knows" about Kakashi, perhaps because as the owner of the eye, he has access to Obito's memories (similar Itachi mind-reading Kabuto). Although other explanations are possible as well.
- eyedrops: http://www.mangareader.net/93-244-6/...apter-239.html
- bleeding eyes: http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/595/2
We know Obito had a medical condition. It's very plausible it has to do with his eyes
- Tobi is partly composed of Zetsu goo. Obito was crushed under a rock
My theory (since I still don't believe Tobi=Obito): someone either found Tobi or "possessed" his body and at a certain time discovered the warping power. Then the body got fixed up.
After, Tobi started experimenting to collect or clone Sharingan eyes (his own eye?). Perhaps a dying Madara found Obito and fixed him up using Hashirama's cells and used Genjutsu on him to revive himself later on. Or any other reasonable explanation...
Also, remember the kunai Obito got from Minato? Someone here theorized that Tobi can only get/transport to the location of another Sharingan user. Perhaps Tobi combined his eye power with Minato's seal: Minato could transport to the location of his Kunai, and Tobi can transport to the location of other Sharingan users.
If that is true, he can 'flash' to wherever Kakashi is.
Tobi is really a boss, pleasantly surprised that he can keep up suprisingly well even against those three, and he's very smart too, using the terrain at his advantage, and having an awesome taijutsu battle against Gai and Naruto using that fan and his ST jutsu perfectly.
Finally a battle chapter that doesn't suck, no asspulls, no retarded options, only four guys being awesome.
And Bee doing support.
On a side note, how sick is Gai with his nunchakus?
Where do you see a "crack" in tobi?