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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Hate to bring up the Tobi=Obito theory again, but the idea behind it kind of blows my mind now.
    As we saw with Itachi and Sasuke, one eye of the MS is for Amaterasu and the other for Tsukyomi (correct me if I'm wrong here).
    So if Tobi is Obito and Kakashi has his other eye, the ability of someone having both eyes would be
    - Seding objects other than oneself to the seperate dimension with one eye (Kakashi)
    - And being able to move between the dimensions with the other eye (Tobi)

    On the off chance that this is true, we would need a good explanation of how Obito survived the rocks crushing his body.
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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Murdock View Post
    It can't be Obito becuase it doesn't fit timeline for the love of god think people ... He might be using his eye, maybe but even that is improbable ... If it was his eye , then it would most likely be MS technique ... considering how much he's been using it that would be blind by now ... so I think it is some sick Uchiha technique nobody knows about and you just need regular sharingan ... look at Itachi he used it very sporadically and was blind, same with Sasuke - Tobi is spamming it for 17 years and is OK?
    The bold goes for Kakashi too...do not you think so?...
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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    sorry but if tobi is really obito (or related to him in any way) I will stop reading this manga.
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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Tobi has a huge stockpile of eyes (as seen in a chapter a months ago) so maybe he just uses the ones he needs as "tools". Kamui is a very useful and tactic jutsu since allows the user to teleport and intangibility so he use it as a main eye and the another one is the complementary, rinnegan in this case. So, he maybe stole Obito's eye but we still dont know why the MS pattern doesnt appear when he uses kamui...

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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Necron View Post
    Hate to bring up the Tobi=Obito theory again, but the idea behind it kind of blows my mind now.
    As we saw with Itachi and Sasuke, one eye of the MS is for Amaterasu and the other for Tsukyomi (correct me if I'm wrong here).
    So if Tobi is Obito and Kakashi has his other eye, the ability of someone having both eyes would be
    - Seding objects other than oneself to the seperate dimension with one eye (Kakashi)
    - And being able to move between the dimensions with the other eye (Tobi)

    On the off chance that this is true, we would need a good explanation of how Obito survived the rocks crushing his body.
    That's no problem, the real problem is finding out how Obito could be on par with Minato just a couple of years after the war in which he "apparently" died in and the fact that he was such a benevolent person in even death, what could've happened in that short amount to have made him so angry and malevolent. I've got to say that the Obito theory is getting more relevant but there's still a lot of probs around it.

    Kishi is really draging this one out though, I hope the we come to a greater conclusion soon.
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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by InvincibleUchiha View Post
    sorry but if tobi is really obito (or related to him in any way) I will stop reading this manga.
    Me too...I wanted him to be real Madara....If he is Obito it would something..so easily guessed...My only hope is Izuna or Shisui..(yeah Itachi's flashback did not prove that Shisui died...)
    Quote Originally Posted by syx View Post
    There is already a standard explanation for anything:

    You want to boost your chakra? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want to get the Gods eyes? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want Wood Jutsus? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want Izanagi to last longer? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want to cut Kotoamatsukamis cooldown from 10 years to several hours? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want to spam MS without going blind? Take Hashiramas cells!

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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Quote Quote:
    On the off chance that this is true, we would need a good explanation of how Obito survived the rocks crushing his body.
    It can turn out to,Obito was shifted under those rocks, so in fact his mangekyo(or whatever) can aweken that time and rocks just slipped trough him.

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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Simply put Tobi is projecting his body to the other dimension when he allows objects to pass through him (he is in the same space but not in the same dimension). When he sends objects to the other dimension using his sharingan, his physical body cannot be projected. When Kakashi kamuid the rasengan, it was only when Tobi projected himself, the rasengan connected.
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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood View Post
    Chakra consumage isn't a problem for anybody anymore, good or bad guys:
    Kabuto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Gai, Bee, Tobi, all of them used or are using expensive jutsus and abilities and none has chakra problems, what is worse, using 3 Kamui or controlling 6 Bijuus, Gedo Mazo, creating a giant barrier made of fire, and after which fighting without breaking a sweat?
    Trust me, Tobi consumed at least 5 times the chakra Kakashi has used and isn't even tired.
    And its not a problem imho.

    In chapter, Kakashi really shines, I love, love when fights are resolved thanks to intelligence and smarts and not on who has the most haxed jutsu, the lack of Susano'o helps too.
    Great chap, a little slow but who cares.


    On a side note, Tobi's Katon reminds me of the one the Sound Four used in part 1, only that his is way more badass-looking
    but most people always complaining about Sasuke chakra , right !?

    and Tobi has Hashirama cells that mean he probably has more chakra capacity than even Naruto !!!

    didn't Kakashi want behead and kill Gedo Mazu by his MS jutsu !? destroying ten tiles body including 7 bijju and Hachibi and QB chakra need a super strong jutsu and you saying Kamui isn't haxed !?
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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    time travel anyone? or maybe the dimension tobi goes to is like hyperbolic time chamber where time progresses slowly and he can just practice shit.

    we've seen immortal people and people come back from dead. this theory wont be so farfetched

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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood View Post
    Chakra consumage isn't a problem for anybody anymore, good or bad guys:
    Kabuto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Gai, Bee, Tobi, all of them used or are using expensive jutsus and abilities and none has chakra problems, what is worse, using 3 Kamui or controlling 6 Bijuus, Gedo Mazo, creating a giant barrier made of fire, and after which fighting without breaking a sweat?
    Trust me, Tobi consumed at least 5 times the chakra Kakashi has used and isn't even tired.
    And its not a problem imho.

    In chapter, Kakashi really shines, I love, love when fights are resolved thanks to intelligence and smarts and not on who has the most haxed jutsu, the lack of Susano'o helps too.
    Great chap, a little slow but who cares.

    On a side note, Tobi's Katon reminds me of the one the Sound Four used in part 1, only that his is way more badass-looking


    Well for Tobi we do have an explanation... He has senju DNA after all. Kakashi on the other hand should be... Emm at least showing some serious fatigue...

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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Shader View Post
    It can turn out to,Obito was shifted under those rocks, so in fact his mangekyo(or whatever) can aweken that time and rocks just slipped trough him.
    but it still doesnt tell us the reason he didn't return to Konoha...he had absolutely no reason to betray it...that is why I still do not believe that Tobi=Obito...it just makes no sense

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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Anybody noticed that kakashi has closed his sharingan at the end of the chapter ? he's maybe feeling the drain.

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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Tobi does not need to be Obito to use Kamui. Going by the databook you just need training to get that jutsu and MS. Any MS user could end up using Kamui and variations of it. Tobi is just that good. He was able to not only get some type of Kamui but also make himself intangible with it.

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    Re: Naruto 596 Discussion / 597 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by tiranor View Post
    Anybody noticed that kakashi has closed his sharingan at the end of the chapter, he's maybe feeling the drain.
    It is about time...because if this keeps up they will hit him again...By the way Tobi does not seem that hurt...
    OR

    He will remove his arm like Piccolo and like Grimmjow he will say I do not need both arms to kick your asses.. LMAO
    Quote Originally Posted by syx View Post
    There is already a standard explanation for anything:

    You want to boost your chakra? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want to get the Gods eyes? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want Wood Jutsus? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want Izanagi to last longer? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want to cut Kotoamatsukamis cooldown from 10 years to several hours? Take Hashiramas cells!
    You want to spam MS without going blind? Take Hashiramas cells!

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