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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
2. Maybe, but since the Kyuubi can seemingly sense chakra, it should have been able to tell the difference. The Kyuubi was also said to know the truth about the Uchiha clan, yet hasn't said anything, so maybe it just doesn't see a need to say anything.
@rikudo kind about 'potential' to gain Susanoo, its obvious that 'potential' to gain MS itself is rare, since few of the uchiha could achieve it. Which makes 'potential' to awake Susanoo even rarer.
There has been lot of discussion about Susanoo and working of MS lately. We are kind of derailing from the ongoing chapter. My suggestion is to populate the threads suited for these kinds of topics on the mainboard or Naruto Toshokan. After all, the discussion kind of gets wasted when disc/pred threads are archived.
My theory on Tobi's identity.
When Madara fought hashirama at the valley of the end. He took a piece of Hashirama DNA and created Zetsu, an entity capable of cloning chakra and stuff perfectly.
Madara died. Tobi is simply the clone of himself mix with zetsu that he left behind as a plan B to ressurect himself using rinnegan.
Simple, make sense. He got Obito eye because zetsu is the land himself and was probably watching while Obito died.
Thing is, Madara's zetsu clone is not following the directives real madara left him. I belive the real villain will be Madara and the Juubi and Tobi will be killed by kakashi as a memento to Obito's memory.
'My two cents'
it's not like nagato was still a child...what were they waiting for?
because if tobi was true...wouldn't madara have been back instead of kabuto rezzing him.i think tobi was saving nagato and RT for"himself"and not madara...that was why he was pissed....
2: In a way I think it all comes down to Kishimoto wanting to keep the secrets for the sake of hiding Tobi's identity... like I said before, sometimes to the detriment of the story. At the time, we were led to believe it was actually Madara. But maybe it wasn't. And now that the kyuubi had something ot say to Tobi, it wasn't: "Remember that time you ripped me from his mother and used me to attack the village? I do, and payback will be a bitch." And he didn't say: "Remember that time you told me that my purpose is to serve those with powerful eyes?" He was vague back then when he said 'YOU!'... he recognized the chakra as you say but thus far, hasn't elaborated. Unless he was tricked into believing it was somebody it wasn't.
The worst part about it is that he obviously knows that Tobi isn't Madara because the real Madara just tried to summon him through Naruto's clone. But he hasn't said a word about Tobi or what happened at teh village or even who he thinks Tobi is... which could be helpful information to his 'new' allies.
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After finding out that the jutsu was supposed to be for 'me', I honeslty didn't know how to take that. Becuase at the time Tobi had been calling himself Madara. So I thought, who is he trying to bring back from the dead? Or is he actually a corpse (ergo, the ET that never was de-summoned). Then Madara seemingly confirmed that it was meant for HIM, and that something was not going according to plan. Makes you realize how risky and flimsy the plan may have been all along...
I think the goal was to collect the bijuu, use it's power to summon Madara (perhaps manipulating Nagato further), then betraying Nagato. Either way, I see both of them betraying Nagato and killing him to get back the rinnegan and **returning** it to Madara. Then Madara would control the 10 tails and cast his genjutsu.
Though... and I'm rambling, sorry, that 'peaceful' illusion, IMO doesn't fit what we've seen from Madara... a guy that loves combat, is snarky, and gets off on the fear of others.
Last edited by jalix; August 21, 2012 at 07:52 AM.
I'm currently looking forward to seeing if all of the other bijuus chakra is somehow going to be used to give Kyubi a pokemon evolution.