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    Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    Danzo starts with his hand unsealed. He can use Shisui's eye as a normal sharingan eye BUT he can't use Kotoamatsukami. Asume that he has time to use Izanagi before he get's hit.
    Deidara starts with his mines already planted but not already under Danzou obviously.
    Kakuzu has all the crep he showed but only 1 life (but yes he has all the masks). Asume that Danzou's futon can damage Kakuzu trough that earth shield he had.
    Hidan... Well he is like in the manga.

    No information about the other party, like at all.

    They fight at VOE and start at the bottom of the waterfall. 20m appart.

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    Stomp for the Akatsuki, Kakuzu alone would be a match for Danzou since he would have the elemental advantage ( hell, he would use the Fuuton + Katon combo ), is beastly in taijutsu and Danzou doesn't use genjutsu.
    The masks would prevent any blitz from behind thanks to Izanagi, and the threads would prevent Danzou to get close enough to use a seal on him. If he summons Baku, Kakuzu would simply destroy Danzou since it would power up his own Fuutons + Katons

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

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    He "kills" Danzou, Danzou teleports behind him and shoots 1 futon at the man. That would be close to enough to end the fight. You have to understand Danzo has some 10 minutes of God mode to keep teleporting behind them and using whatever futon to take them down OR just land a finger of them and turn them into a statue. If he can hit Sasuke... HE IS hitting them to.
    He is also the perfect counter to Hidan as he can't die and when he goes poof the blood would go poof to and then he needs blood all over again.
    Deidara? Die and pop right behind him up on his bird and Futon his but.

    If anything this fight is favoring Danzo...

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    You see the jutsu once, you are automatically immune to the blitz, since you would expect it again. And Danzou can't respawn behind Kakuzu if he is killed by, say, a mid-ranged Fuuton+Katon combo, he only respawned behind him when Susano'o hand crushed him, like, half a meter in front of Sasuke.
    Also Sasuke could sense him trying to hit him from behind, Kakuzu, someone way more experienced as a ninja than him should be able to do the same, since Danzou never displayed Kakashi's level of stealth.
    Hell, he sensed Shikamaru's shadow moving behind him.

    Danzou can't hit Kakuzu, expecially so when he fuses his Katon + Fuuton mask on him and has mask flying around him that can quickly attack Danzou should he ever take the original body by surprise, if Kakashi + Team 10 couldn't even touch him in a straight fight when he wasn't serious, Danzou never will.
    And if Hidan takes a bit of Danzou's blood, he can simply kill himself time and time again, until Danzou's time runs out.

    Adding Deidara is overkill

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

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    Well not exacly. Danzou got killed here:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/477/5
    At the botton of the thing and then teleported on top of the thing.
    Tobi teleported from what? Bottom of the lake to the top right behind Konan?

    Also no, Sasuke DID NOT sense him. Danzou had to speak for Sasuke to notice him:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/476/18
    If Danzou did not oppen his big mouth and Sasuke did not have Susano he would be dead there. Danzou can do the same, use a futon sword and cut Kakuzu in half. What Danzo is doing is like Minato teleporting behind you with his ST jutsu.

    Also Kakashi did land a blow on Kakuzu and he would have DIED if he had 1 life like here. Again he is NOT going to start full masks of the bat (like in the manga) and trust me Danzou is landing a hit on him as he can teleport point blank range and exchange blows.

    Kakuzu already explained but if Danzo 'dies" his blood goos poof as that blood turns into a ilusion. Remember his hand? Right here:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/477/14
    Yep it will disapear like the hand as that hit on Danzou never happened, it was a "dream".

    Deidara? He can't bomb shit or use mines or he would hit his own team to and Danzou can just go poof. To the point he is left just about alone he is not helping much at all.

    Well anyway i am curious what other people think about this.
    Last edited by xXan; August 08, 2012 at 09:27 AM.

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    I understand why people would think that Kakuzu isn't that great, since, well, he was beaten in a retarded way, but let's not forget that he was a beast in Taijutsu ( to the point Kakashi, the same one that is fighting now Tobi, couldn't do a thing to him except a single sneak attack ), his Ninjutsu was so strong a single B rank jutsu of his required for Kakashi to use Raikiri, a S rank jutsu, to parry it, and he still got damaged.

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    Also no, Sasuke DID NOT sense him. Danzou had to speak for Sasuke to notice him:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/476/18
    If Danzou did not oppen his big mouth and Sasuke did not have Susano he would be dead there. Danzou can do the same, use a futon sword and cut Kakuzu in half. What Danzo is doing is like Minato teleporting behind you with his ST jutsu.
    True, even though I was talking about this occasion, Kakuzu's masks are indipendent from each other, meaning that, if Danzou would appear behind him, then they would attack him automatically, and they would be faster since, countrary to Danzou, they wouldn't require hand-seals.

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    Also Kakashi did land a blow on Kakuzu and he would have DIED if he had 1 life like here. Again he is NOT going to start full masks of the bat (like in the manga) and trust me Danzou is landing a hit on him as he can teleport point blank range and exchange blows.
    Kakashi hit Kakuzu only with a sneak attack, the other heart was destroyed by Shikamaru's strategy.
    Kakashi never landed a clean hit on Kakuzu.
    Again for Danzou teleporting, even without the masks Kakuzu can still sense him, since he sensed a shadow, and I doubt Danzou's body makes less noise than a shadow.

    Hell say Deidara is flying from above, he sees Danzou spawning, and launches those quick birds of his to create a relatively small explosion, Danzou is stopped, Kakuzu can kill him again.
    Kakuzu alone with his masks can kill him, with support is even more one-sided

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    Well, I don't want to say much about the fight, but this is the first thing that jumped into my mind:

    Hidan draws blood.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    @Uchiha_Blood

    He "kills" Danzou, Danzou teleports behind him and shoots 1 futon at the man. That would be close to enough to end the fight. You have to understand Danzo has some 10 minutes of God mode to keep teleporting behind them and using whatever futon to take them down OR just land a finger of them and turn them into a statue. If he can hit Sasuke... HE IS hitting them to.
    He is also the perfect counter to Hidan as he can't die and when he goes poof the blood would go poof to and then he needs blood all over again.
    Deidara? Die and pop right behind him up on his bird and Futon his but.

    If anything this fight is favoring Danzo...
    and Akatsukis haven't some overpower and fast attack as sasuke as well ....

    and Danzo Futton was most interstin Futton jutsu I see ... don't say Sasuke block them so easily because everyone should understand only too haxed power could have chance against Susanoo ....
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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    I seriously don't see how Danzou wins this fight. The three members of Akatsuki take this with ease. Danzou would probably have a tough fight against any one of these three. This isn't even close.

    Maybe Danzou can bribe them.
    Last edited by Impossibility; August 08, 2012 at 07:03 PM.

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    This fight is so uneven its hard to take it seriously. Danzou dies as soon as he runs out of eyes. Deidara can just kill Danzou with his fast douton birds from long range.

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    Quote Originally Posted by LnDRash View Post
    Well, I don't want to say much about the fight, but this is the first thing that jumped into my mind:

    Hidan draws blood.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.
    Hidan stabs himself into the heart.
    Danzou dies and respawns.

    etc. etc.
    As funny as that is he would first need the blood and after Danzo goes poof the blood would disapear. Remember his arm disapearing? Same thing here Danzo dies once and then Hidan needs his blood all over again.
    Also just Hidan going in close is going to get himself killed as Danzou has that futon sword and would cut right trough Hidan's weapon and trough Hidan himself. After Danzo dies he has a free shoot on any of them by teleporting behind them and turning that dude into a statue.

    @Uchiha_Blood

    The thing is Danzo does not need to overpower Kakuzu's jutsus. Just get a shoot in or just pop right next to him and tauch him. Kakuzu would not even know how dangeros that is.
    Its like Minato poping next to Tobi after Tobi get tagged. Then just land a finger on Kakuzu and he won the fight. How would he even coutner that? Danzo poping right next to him and just tauching him? What exacly is he supposed to do? He does not have Susano. The masks firing jutsus is irrelevant as they can't do it faster then Danzo moving 1 arm... After that Danzo goes poof and whatever jutsus those masks use would probably ending up doing good damage to Kakuzu himself as Kakuzu is going to be right next to Danzo so all in all those masks would end up doing bad not good.
    Kakuzu does not even go off the bat with his mask but even asuming he has them out and those are behind Kakuzu because Danzou already killed somebody else by teleporting like that and using some futon sword (kunai with Futon) to chop them in half) he would still not have enough time to shoot before Danzo moves and arm when in point blank range.
    He does not need any handseals for that special seal. After that just go poof and then Futon Kakuzu from the front (masks would be behind Kakuzu now).

    Also of course i was refering to Kakasi getting that 1 hit in at first. Same Danzou can do as the enemy does not know his abilities. Also the izanagi teleport is so good that Sasuke could not sense him and same for Konan for Tobi.

    Again Danzo would be to close to Kakuzu or Hidan for Deidara to do anything or Danzou just ports right up next to Deidara on his bird and kills him. Same tactic with the seal and then futon sword or some other futon.

    @Impossibility

    1 on 1 the only one ho could fight Danzo even for some time is Kakuzu(that is nerfed here, only 1 life...). Hidan? Danzo forms a futon swords and cuts trough Hidan's weapon and right trough hidan making him in half. Hidan can't even tauch the man that can dodge Susano poping in his face. Then even if he get's blood its irrelevant as Danzou goes poof, ports behind Hidan and ripps him in half.

    Deidara? Danzou alows to be hit, dies and pops behind Deidara at point blank range and turns him into a statue like Sasuke ... Then its over. Deidara has NO counters to that(like Susano for Sasuke...). He is just stuck like a statue and w8ting for Danzou to kill him.

    Seriously those 2 have 0 chanse in a 1vs1 to even make it a fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    This fight is so uneven its hard to take it seriously. Danzou dies as soon as he runs out of eyes. Deidara can just kill Danzou with his fast douton birds from long range.
    Yes because that would not hit his own team that are going to be in close proximity to Danzou and Danzou can't die once, teleport behind Deidara and place that seal and then 1 shoot him... Deidara does not have Susano to keep Danzo off his ass.

    Belive it or not Danzo has a better ST then Minato as Danzou can teleport like that when he dies and he does not even need a tag lol. Also he does it so good that not even Sasuke could sense him.
    Last edited by xXan; August 09, 2012 at 01:01 AM.

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    come on ... why people think Kakuzu / Hidan / Didara could kill Danzo so easily .... don't forget he was enough strong that force Sandaime respect him ...

    if you talking about SAsuke , I should say that Sasuke could kill three Akatsui ninja in blink of an eye ... an amatrusu to Didara , a Susanoo punch to hidan and another Amatrusu for Kakuzu .....
    Last edited by shafagh; August 09, 2012 at 01:09 AM.
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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    @Uchiha_Blood

    The thing is Danzo does not need to overpower Kakuzu's jutsus. Just get a shoot in or just pop right next to him and tauch him. Kakuzu would not even know how dangeros that is.
    Its like Minato poping next to Tobi after Tobi get tagged. Then just land a finger on Kakuzu and he won the fight. How would he even coutner that? Danzo poping right next to him and just tauching him? What exacly is he supposed to do? He does not have Susano. The masks firing jutsus is irrelevant as they can't do it faster then Danzo moving 1 arm... After that Danzo goes poof and whatever jutsus those masks use would probably ending up doing good damage to Kakuzu himself as Kakuzu is going to be right next to Danzo so all in all those masks would end up doing bad not good.
    Kakuzu does not even go off the bat with his mask but even asuming he has them out and those are behind Kakuzu because Danzou already killed somebody else by teleporting like that and using some futon sword (kunai with Futon) to chop them in half) he would still not have enough time to shoot before Danzo moves and arm when in point blank range.
    He does not need any handseals for that special seal. After that just go poof and then Futon Kakuzu from the front (masks would be behind Kakuzu now).

    Also of course i was refering to Kakasi getting that 1 hit in at first. Same Danzou can do as the enemy does not know his abilities. Also the izanagi teleport is so good that Sasuke could not sense him and same for Konan for Tobi.

    Again Danzo would be to close to Kakuzu or Hidan for Deidara to do anything or Danzou just ports right up next to Deidara on his bird and kills him. Same tactic with the seal and then futon sword or some other futon.
    I have a question xXan, why make topics when you are so certain a certain team would destroy the other, even when everyone says the countrary?
    Same thing with the whole Orochimaru vs Jiraiya team, if you believe Danzou >>>>> Hidan, Kakuzu & Deidara why make an Arena topic about it? Arena topics are for battles that are uncertain, entertaining, at least theorically.

    Also are you aware Izanagi does not functions as teleportation, right? He respawns another body, but he can't respawn wherever he wants, hell he can't respawn faster than the eye can blink, since Danzou was able to ( almost ) blitz Sasuke only once, and that is when Sasuke crushed him in the near distance.
    If Danzou could teleport wherever he wanted, Sasuke would've fallen by a blitz from the back, which he didn't.

    Quote Quote:
    Belive it or not Danzo has a better ST then Minato as Danzou can teleport like that when he dies and he does not even need a tag lol. Also he does it so good that not even Sasuke could sense him.
    Ahh I see what you did there.
    Clever.
    Also Sasuke's awareness of his surroundings is poor at best, not only with Danzou, but also with Bee, Gaara's sand at the summit and with Naruto.

    ---------- Post added at 12:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:20 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by shafagh View Post
    come on ... why people think Kakuzu / Hidan / Didara could kill Danzo so easily .... don't forget he was enough strong that force Sandaime respect him ...

    if you talking about SAsuke , I should say that Sasuke could kill three Akatsui ninja in blink of an eye ... an amatrusu to Didara , a Susanoo punch to hidan and another Amatrusu for Kakuzu .....
    Problem is, Danzou does not have Susano'o, nor Amaterasu, and quite certainly isn't Sasuke.
    Danzou's strenghts in this fight are worthless since its a team battle and he is inferior to his opponents in both taijutsu and ninjutsu, his main weapons. You can respawn all you want, but if you can't damage your opponent said respawning is worthless

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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

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    Quote Quote:
    I have a question xXan, why make topics when you are so certain a certain team would destroy the other, even when everyone says the countrary?
    Same thing with the whole Orochimaru vs Jiraiya team, if you believe Danzou >>>>> Hidan, Kakuzu & Deidara why make an Arena topic about it? Arena topics are for battles that are uncertain, entertaining, at least theorically.
    First of i belive Danzou has the advantage yes but that it does not mean its a sure win. I am just contradicting people stating how the team stomps ignoring multiple things Danzou could do to win. Like you beliving he needs to overpower them with jutsus to do it... No just teleport behind 1 of them at point blank range, turn them into a statue and that is it.
    Secondly as long as you have people supporting both sides its a valid topic.

    Quote Quote:
    Also are you aware Izanagi does not functions as teleportation, right? He respawns another body, but he can't respawn wherever he wants, hell he can't respawn faster than the eye can blink, since Danzou was able to ( almost ) blitz Sasuke only once, and that is when Sasuke crushed him in the near distance.
    If Danzou could teleport wherever he wanted, Sasuke would've fallen by a blitz from the back, which he didn't.
    Danzou clearly displaye the ability to teleport in diference places as he wanted to. On top of a pilar, behind Sasuke right next to himself and so on. He can control his reality. Tobi was able to pop behind Konan in a similar way.
    He showed clear control where he pops.
    Complete control over ones personal reality:
    http://www.mangareader.net/93-45540-...apter-479.html

    Now Danzou could not blitz Sasuke as Sasuke had... Well you know... SUSANO. Hell he DID try(from the back) and Susano stoped him completly...
    Quote Quote:
    Ahh I see what you did there.
    Clever.
    Also Sasuke's awareness of his surroundings is poor at best, not only with Danzou, but also with Bee, Gaara's sand at the summit and with Naruto.
    What did i do now? I just used the ability like he showed it.

    Also in that example Sasuke was focusing on Kakashi, was exhausted, big problems with his vision and so on man.
    With Bee what? After he belived he was down? How could he knew that Bee with his Biju can bust out...
    At the summit? Like even when exhausted he dodged a lava attack from behind? Here:
    http://www.mangareader.net/93-33750-...apter-465.html
    Completly with his back turned and he sensed it... The diference is with Naruto he was not aware that he would drop in... And more then anything he had vision problems...
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    Re: Danzo vs Deidara/Hidan and Kakuzu

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    As funny as that is he would first need the blood and after Danzo goes poof the blood would disapear. Remember his arm disapearing? Same thing here Danzo dies once and then Hidan needs his blood all over again.
    Also just Hidan going in close is going to get himself killed as Danzou has that futon sword and would cut right trough Hidan's weapon and trough Hidan himself. After Danzo dies he has a free shoot on any of them by teleporting behind them and turning that dude into a statue.
    Hm I don't think Hidan would need the blood all over again. Danzou's Izanagi probably wouldn't trigger by something like a little scratch, so there's a good chance something like that won't event be reversed if he dies some time later by different means. True, after Danzou dies the blood on Hidans weapons would most probably disappear, but if he already consumed it and turned into reaper mode, I doubt the already established body-link would suddenly be broken.
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