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    Natsu and Gajeel age

    So, I thought of creating a thread to discuss your theory on Natsu and Gajeel age.

    We already know somehow, that they couldn't get through the barrier meaning that they are older than 80 years.

    So, what's your theory on this?

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    Here's a few theory to discuss:

    Theory 1: Reincarnation

    The most popular theory.
    They are reincarnation, so they are older.

    I won't go into the details for that one.

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    Theory 2: The spirit world

    This whole 1 day in Spirit World = 3 months in Real World sure sounded like a funny joke at first.
    But, what if there was more to it?

    It could very well be possible that both Natsu and Gajeel (and possibly Wendy), went to the Spirit World with their dragon parents.

    They would only need to stay less than 1 year to technically come back in the real world 80 years later.

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    Theory 3: The scarf

    That might be a bit strange, but you never know...

    We already know that the scarf is special, more than simply a gift from Igneel.
    When Zeref used his darkness magic (which kills everything), Natsu was unharmed but the scarf turned black,

    It was later healed by Wendy (just like a human being would be healed).

    So I'm wondering...
    Maybe the scarf is very old (80 years old +) and could have blocked Natsu.

    As for Gajeel, maybe he also have some gift from his Dragon...
    I was thinking about all of those piercing he had maybe (since his father is a Metal dragon).

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    Reincarnation
    reincarnation ehh.. kinda like Avatar the Last Airbender.. but from who? we still don't know how the dragon choosing their DS.. is it just random or need a special conditions.. and about Zeref knowing Natsu.. maybe Igneel were the one who mentioned about Natsu to Zeref... not someone he know aged ago. one thing is i don't know if reincarnation will make people older. but this reincarnation thing it still can be possible.. All FT DS age except Laxus sure is mystery..

    The spirit world
    Hmmm... i don't think any possibility about this.. because it look like Natsu doesn't even know anything about that place. also it the place where spirit live not the dragon.. so if anyone has any idea or possibility i like to hear about that.

    The scarf
    1st time i hear about this idea.. kinda good one i guess.. and i wonder if Wendy could passes that barrier..

    at the time i read that chapter i though the reason is because of their magic so old that Natsu and Gazeel cannot passes the barrier..

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    Kinda weird how reincarnation is one of the more popular ones, but everyone so far has voted no.

    I think of all the theories presented it's the most likely. The scarf just... happened, and I don't think the idea of people being able to hang out in the spirit world has been around as long as Mashima has had plans for Natsu and Gajeel's age thing. The only hint that could have been dropped for reincarnation so far is that they registered as over 80, and if that turned out to really be the reason than I'd accept it, but I haven't seen any other solid evidence pointing towards it either. Plus, I kind of expect a little more from Mashima than the most likely answer.

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    Is awesome an age?

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    No. Awesome is a word. One's age is expressed in numbers.

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    Theory 2 and 3 are good to go, 1 is far off and causes a lot of complications in the plot. True that Zeref stated that *this time etc etc* but does that have to mean reincarnation?

    a 4th theory could be they are not dragonslayers as such but that they are true dragons all of them. And that somehow they are in a human form. That the final unlock of their power is going to a dragonform as in real dragon. Like they could have been before.
    Its not that far off since Let in Rave Master also was in a human form and could change into a full fledged dragon. As could all of the dragonclan. But there was a catch to it. Anyways you should look it up if you dont know about it. A lot of what Mashima uses now in FT is from previous mangas he wrote. And some that hes writing still. And he crosses it over to one another.

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    Theory 2 and 3 are good to go, 1 is far off and causes a lot of complications in the plot. True that Zeref stated that *this time etc etc* but does that have to mean reincarnation?

    a 4th theory could be they are not dragonslayers as such but that they are true dragons all of them. And that somehow they are in a human form. That the final unlock of their power is going to a dragonform as in real dragon. Like they could have been before.
    Its not that far off since Let in Rave Master also was in a human form and could change into a full fledged dragon. As could all of the dragonclan. But there was a catch to it. Anyways you should look it up if you dont know about it. A lot of what Mashima uses now in FT is from previous mangas he wrote. And some that hes writing still. And he crosses it over to one another.
    Yeah, I thought about that theory too, that they might be actual dragons.
    I was thinking of adding it, but I didn't really know how to express it, so I didn't add it.


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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    4th theory could be they are not dragonslayers as such but that they are true dragons all of them. And that somehow they are in a human form. That the final unlock of their power is going to a dragonform as in real dragon. Like they could have been before.
    Its not that far off since Let in Rave Master also was in a human form and could change into a full fledged dragon. As could all of the dragonclan. But there was a catch to it. Anyways you should look it up if you dont know about it. A lot of what Mashima uses now in FT is from previous mangas he wrote. And some that hes writing still. And he crosses it over to one another.
    it been written in last chapter that is a DF are the final form of DS magic... and Igneel did say about if human can exceed dragon.. so they are human with dragon power not the dragon itself..it must be something else that make their age unknown until now..

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    the theory of both of them a real dragon is already scratch off because of Polyusica (edolas dragon) because they saw other Natsu on Edolas

    the theory of them are created by the dragons like both of them are created from a stone and given life by the dragon and maybe the dragon's want to prove who if a human/humanoid can surpass their respective dragons in terms of power from what i remember all of the DS they see or fighting is not a 1st gen all of them are either they put a lacryma on their bodies to mimic the DS magic or killing off their dragon(Sting and Rouge didn't kill a dragon i think they just vanished 7 years ago that's why Sting wants to beat Salamander/Natsu)

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    Quote Originally Posted by ca12nag3 View Post
    Theory 2 and 3 are good to go, 1 is far off and causes a lot of complications in the plot. True that Zeref stated that *this time etc etc* but does that have to mean reincarnation?

    a 4th theory could be they are not dragonslayers as such but that they are true dragons all of them. And that somehow they are in a human form. That the final unlock of their power is going to a dragonform as in real dragon. Like they could have been before.
    Its not that far off since Let in Rave Master also was in a human form and could change into a full fledged dragon. As could all of the dragonclan. But there was a catch to it. Anyways you should look it up if you dont know about it. A lot of what Mashima uses now in FT is from previous mangas he wrote. And some that hes writing still. And he crosses it over to one another.
    NO! they definitely aren't dragons coz if they were acnologia would have at least answered natsu's questions. he(acnologia) didn't used words because they were humans.
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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    I just voted yes but I am far from being certain with that theory especially because it could contradict the rune magic rule that didn't allow the DS to pass. Apart from that Wendy is younger than the other DS which makes the "incarnation theory" more uncertain.

    On the other hand, Grandine hopes that Wendy and "this child" would have a better relationship "this time".
    Zeref also talked about Natsu as if he knew him thus interacted with him somehow in the past. I doubt he would be so emotional about him if he met him only as a very young child. So the other three theories aren't well explained either. The possessed Jellal also spoke about Natsu in a similar familiar manner and wanted him to grow.

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    There is one thing that make the scarf and spirit world theory bad.
    http://www.mangareader.net/135-7216-...apter-101.html

    They met before and don´t remember. I don´t think they reecarnated, but they are something realy strange.

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    Re: Natsu and Gajeel age

    So, with the new information that human can transform into Dragon, could it be possible that Dragon can turn into human as well?
    Would that give some more ammo to the theory that Natsu, Gajeel and Wendy are Dragon in human form.

    PS: Why is this thread already in the archive? It's not that old!


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