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Translations: Gintama 515 by kewl0210
Hey everyone I just wanted to ask you about Izuna. I didn't really understand what happened to him where his eyes stolen by Madara/ he wanted to give them to Madara?Could you please explain this?
P.S. thx you for your time.
sorry for grammar mistakes.
According to Itachi, Madara took Izuna's eyes forcefully.
According to Tobi, Izuna gave up his eyes to Madara for the sake of the clan and his brother.
Considering both had in their interests to lie to Sasuke, its uncertain which one of the two said the truth
Tobi said half truth half lies to Sasuke..Like about the Kyuuby attack..So he may said the truth that Izuna gave his eyes willingly but he lied about Izuna's death..
My theory btw xD http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showth...rovided/page10
Last edited by MonkeyDLuffy7GR; August 26, 2012 at 12:30 PM.
to be truthful...if he gave them up willingly,was because this may have been the first chance to see what's on the tablet is true(hence brothers/friends swapping eyes...MS+MS=EMS)...
if i remember correctly,izuna was just as talented as madara...so why weaken the clan(by causing izuna's death)instead of just sacrificing a fodder uchiha(like obito)for his/her eyes?
it is confusing though...herehttp://www.mangapanda.com/93-404-5/n...apter-399.htmlhe says he stole them....
but herehttp://www.mangapanda.com/93-404-6/n...apter-399.htmlhe says izuna gave them up but with a regretful arm sqeeze.it just may be izuna,we will see soon enough i guess
Also before that he said that he felt Itachi's chakra, making him stronger.
Probably eyes holds chakra, that's why the combination of Itachi eyes+chakra together with Sasuke's awakened EMS.
Same thing with Izuna and Madara, surely
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Also Izuna lived after Madara took his eyes, and died in battle a while after, according to databooks at least
That could be true. Sasuke could have also made a figure of speech, stating how much more powerful EMS made him feel and how united he felt with Itachi after getting his eyes. Still, nothing discounts the eyes merging together, especially considering how the tomoe mixed.
But wasn't Itachi completely blind when he died? That discounts my theory of complete sealing of Mangekyo making it useless to implant.
We don't know how the three of them awakened their MS. For all we know, they did have some best friends that they either saw die before their eyes or killed for some reason.
I don't know how merging 2 pair of eyes can be done, simply imho the chakra of the Uchiha carries the full power of the gekkei kenkai.
Do remember that hunter nins disposed of the entire body, since even a part would allow enemies to study the chakra of the user. Ahh part 1 goodness.
Hell Sasori could use real bodies to make puppets and made them retain their chakra and gekkei kenkai!
Its pretty much confirmed that Shisui's best friend was Itachi, and that Izuna and Madara were each other's best friends as well
because,if madara/izuna/shisui are concerned...sacrifice was not necessary to reach MS.so,all those that achieved MS through killing someone close would be in a sad predicament when they find out that there is another sacrifice needed to achieve EMS(shrugs)...
it's kinda ironic...because if the likes of madara and his followers were to have kept control of the clan.they would probably have wiped eachother out or everyone would eventually be blind from sacrifice,izanagi,izanami or just overusage.
Just insert the eye into the eyesocket? The merging of two MS tomoe just has me suspicious is all, not to mention the four eyes on the statue thingie we saw when Itachi was narrating the story.Quote:
Where? I don't remember that being said, or at least, them having only one best friend.