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Interesting. I don't like rankings in OP because they seem pointless in a system where you reach certain scale power and then the matches are decides by circumstances, but still I want to read your point on it. I'll wait for you to finish to make any judgement :P
>___< you will probably have to wait for a while. I didn't realize how much writing will go into this especially with school started again. My college classes are not a breeze like high school.
Based on the One Piece wiki, Luffy is a genius at fighting. But how much can he do without his friends help if he got chained by 2 or 4 golden balls.
Anyhow if you read my new analysis, the sheer volume of electricity that Enel produced in reality could forced its way through insulin like rubber.
But electricity, I supposed isn't my favorite Enel's ability. His speed and alchemy is. I think with the Ark Maxim as a weapon and gold as the medium, he is almost unstoppable. Also, physically Enel isn't weak. He was seen blocking pre time skipped Zoro. And he can stood back up to go to the moon, after taking that one powerful golden punch from Luffy. This can't be said about Crocodile or Rob Lucci. Though, we can only guess how much is the punch compare to G2 Gatling and G3 punch.
If the fight take place in the sky, Enel from a safe distance can knock all the sky islands away and let Luffy falls to his death.
Okay, in less favorable circumstances, the battle ended up as a draw, because Enel won't fight Luffy head on (which in the manga he had a tendency of doing). And Luffy at that time don't have the speed to catch up.
Lastly ranking isn't just that one match and one opponent of that one level, Enel need to fare against other opponents under the same criteria also.
I ranked Enel higher than Crocodile even though I think Crocodile can kick Enel's ass every time due to sand isn't a conductor of electricity.
According to Oda Enel bounty could reach up to 500 million Beli in the Blue seas (SBS of Vol 43). I hope this help you with your ranking, if you already know, please disregard.
On the other hand, Enel master one aspect of haki and his devil fruit. Like I said, if in unfavorable condition, and Enel only need to dodge, Luffy cannot touch him. Enel's best defense is his speed and mantra plus he can hide in certain conductor medium. This is already taken into the factor that Luffy is a genius at fighting. The fact is that he only beat Enel the first time around is with the help of the other Strawhats after he fell. Without them he could never reached that high in the sky.
when u say this and that u forget 2 things
1) did u remember Shiki the Golden Lion he was also fly let me tell u how luffy defeat him
luffy using Gear Third, luffy places his giant foot into the clouds, gaining an electric charge and uses this to enhance his giant axe. Shiki at first thinks the lighting will kill Luffy, not realizing Luffy's rubber state will protect him. By the time Shiki realizes his mistake, Luffy hits him with the attack, both smashing and electrifying him to the ground, defeating him and destroying an entire island in the process that time shiki was in air
2) the main point luffy is main character of one piece so dont u think its unbelievable to think enel will defeat luffy 9 of 9 . on other hand luffy defeat enel 9 of 9 is believable
even then i say it will be 5/5 because as u say after his first defeat enel find a way to defeat luffy i say luffy will find a way to defeat him that why it's 5/5 if not that i would have say luffy have more win then enel
last we see enel was on moon where he is strongest one on other hand luffy fight powerful fighter train under one of strongest fighter so he have improve much more then enel
Irrelevant, I have multiple ranking of Luffy. Luffy at 30 mil bounty, Luffy at 100 mil bounty, Luffy at 400 mil bounty. They are all separate. If you want to start a discussion read my ranking first and I know it is quite incomplete. As far as I am to be concern, Luffy not quite defeat Enel the first time around. Luffy got help. Beside at the end, Enel has no interest in battling Luffy. As evidence, he didn't get knock out by Luffy. He was quite okay, he just left for the moon because that what he want. In contrast, Crocodile did get knock out by Luffy and got arrested (except at that point he isn't motivated enough to do anything). Rob Lucci battle a different Luffy than the Luffy that Enel encounter. Rob Lucci got beat so bad that he was out cold and need medical treatment. I have so far rank Luffy at 30 mil and at 100 mil. I have not yet rank Luffy at 300 or 400 mil. But to be honest, with the rubber advantage, post skipped, Luffy will beat Enel 10 out of 10 times. This is due to the fact Luffy's Mantra is only somewhat below Enel. But his other 2 Haki types are way superior.Quote:
Lastly, that is why there are repeat battles, because after the 1 initial battle, each enemies got to know one another. If you recall, Enel was very smart when fighting Luffy by not fighting Luffy at all.
you r right i didnt read ur ranking but thing is u read my post but didnt understand
Last edited by weixiaobao; September 16, 2012 at 02:57 PM.
1st u don't understand anything in one piece or
2nd u r reading something else then one piece
so whit one is right
and about ur ranking
[East Blue common]
- ->"One-Two" Jango, Mr. 8 Igaram, Miss Monday
- ->Fullbody, Sergeant Major Tashigi, Mr. 9, Miss Wednesday Vivi
- ->Yosaku and Jonhny
where did u get information that vivi is from east blue ??????????
let me tell u some thing about vivi
her full name is Nefertari Vivi
She is the daughter of Nefertari Cobra and Nefertari Titi.
Nefertari Vivi is the princess of Alabasta
Alabasta Kingdom is a desert kingdom in the Grand Line and not in east blue
let me give u some name of pirates , there Nickname , Bounty and some information about them
Last edited by suraj5898; September 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM.
Doesn't "East Blue common" only mean the level and not origin? (It doesn't matter if you call it East Blue common or 4 Blues common, right?)
suraj5898- If you don't know how to put thing in spoiler, then erase that huge copy text from one piece wiki because I rather not want to scroll down that thing.
As the two people above me pointed out the obvious in which seemed to escape you altogether. Based on the your latest post, apparently, you haven't read any of my prior posts. So I will do myself a favor and not converse with you anymore because you are as dense as lead. I know that English isn't your first language. English isn't my first language either. At least proof read some of your sentences and read it to yourself before posting or else it makes as much sense as reading baby's doodling.
Edit: I gonna give you my stances anyway, so at least you know what positions that you were arguing again.
-400 mil Luffy vs Enel- Luffy win all the matches, unless Enel is under some sort of lucky star
-300 mil Luffy vs Enel- at this point in time, I could safely assume, that Luffy mastered his devil fruit like Enel, Crocodile, or Magellan. Luffy will win most or all of the matches. But I cannot ranked this Luffy higher than Enel due to overall "imaginative" records against other people at upper tier.
-100 mil Luffy vs Enel- Enel win most of the matches. If Enel is a weakling like Caribou (eventhough he is a logia), then Luffy's immunity will cause him to win all of the matches. But Enel is versatile, smart, acrobatic, and physically fit. The only thing people seemed to suggest that is Enel's disadvantage is arrogant. I begged to differ. I feel that the only thing against him is he just too cunning and doesn't make "defeating Luffy" as the number one thing like other villains. After he felt fighting Luffy is pointless, he didn't really even try on the second half of the battle.
Last edited by weixiaobao; September 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM.