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Thread: Two Tobi's?

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    Re: Two Tobi's?

    Quote Originally Posted by hyper_megaman View Post
    actually, given the hairstyle i doubt it was ever madara

    i strongly think it was izuna

    it's all just conjecture though, and kishi could just decide to retcon again anytime
    Well it depends, madara made a lot of sence considering tobi was using so advanced S/T ninjutsu ... it would meant something, it was testament to his greatness ...
    but izuna made sence too however I never thought about it since he wasn't that significant to the story ...

    Anyway the way Tobi talks to sasuke about Izuna giving up his eyes and then he clutches his own hand when talking about that no one would be able to kill his little brother ... I mean this suggest Madara well Izuna too but in no way it has any relation to Obito
    Why Tobi can't be Obito (or Rin):

    Year 0 for our purposes:
    We know that Madara and Tobi knew each other (confirmed by Kishi) and gave Madara's Rinnegan to Nagato.
    Year 5:
    J-Man trains Nagato
    Year 10:
    Obito is born.Tobi might be using Obito's eye but that is improbable since it would most likely be MS technique BUT considering how much he's been using it he would be blind by now. Itachi used it very sporadically and was blind, same Sasuke-Tobi is spamming it for 17 years and is OK?

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    Re: Two Tobi's?

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    I don't see three Tobi as being impossible. THe original Tobi could have been Madara, while the second Tobi could have been Madara's protege or someone Madara recruited to work with him. He and second Tobi or second Tobi could have chosen the third Tobi and trained him.

    I don't think not showing the face makes the long-haired Tobi not Madara. The face could have been hidden as suspense. Same reason why Kishi didn't show Naruto was the one attacking Muu until the next chapter - to make us doubt what was shown. We didn't know how the current Madara, decades after his reported death, looked like. Was he as young looking? Wrinkly? Would we have recognized him?

    Both Tobi that revealed themselves to Kisame could have looked the same. Kisame's not an idiot, I doubt he'd have believed Tobi was Madara otherwise without solid proof. Another reason why Tobi could be Izuna is because Izuna looked a lot like Madara and was on nearly equal footing with him in terms of power. He'd also know more about Madara that he can pretend to say everything firsthand. Madara could have also told Izuna about Hashirama's cells.

    The fake Madara killing the real Madara could have been part of teh plan. I doubt Madara otherwise would have had annoyed reaction to Tobi instead of pissed/betrayed. That is, if he knew who killed him.
    Can't wait for Madara to showup and greet Obito!
    Someone is in deep shit!

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    Re: Two Tobi's?

    Nobody is going to point out that there could have two Tobi's during the current era? Despite that they both would have used the same ability, it could explain:
    • Why the face he revealed to Sasuke and Kanon was not the same one from chapter 599.
    • Why Kisame called Tobi by "Madara" when he took of his mask.
    • Why he called Kakashi and the others "children".
    • Why Minato didn't recognized him, and neither Tobi acted as if Minato was someone he knew.
    Last edited by Fox666; September 03, 2012 at 03:41 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by IChallengeYou! View Post
    TOBI IS OBITO

    did you say something about timelines?! naruto ate it NOM NOM NOM IT'S GONE.

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    Re: Two Tobi's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fox666 View Post
    Nobody is going to point out that there could have two Tobi's during the current era? Despite that they both would have used the same ability, it could explain:
    • Why the face he revealed to Sasuke and Kanon was not the same one from chapter 599.
    • Why Kisame called Tobi by "Madara" when he took of his mask.
    • Why he called Kakashi and the others "children".
    • Why Minato didn't recognized him, and neither Tobi acted as if Minato was someone he knew.
    Tobi did also have two entirely different personalities, and according to the anime, voices.

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    Re: Two Tobi's?

    ofcourse there were 2 Tobi's, caus "tobi"was there before obito was crushed, at that time he probably really was madara.
    Caus madara was probably also the one who gave nagato the rinnengan caus edo mada knew about nagato, so he must have been around then, and
    tobi was also so madara was tobi.
    The earlierst moment when tobo "became "obito was when the 4th hokage fought him becaus of his jutsu, with only one explenation with him
    not being obito at the time and that was that madara used obito's eye and then later returned it to him before madara died.

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