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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    if the fan was a weak ass weapon why would madara bother carrying it ? i guess if we saw the weapon of the S.O.S.P some poeple would still complain
    a story that can reach the hearts of people all around the world no matter what their culture or background is and be their favorite is truly and definitely a masterpiece . i hope you last a bit more Naruto. thanks Kishi for the most epic manga

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Broda86 View Post
    This whole chapter kinda reminds me of Star wars O_o Madara= Sith Lord and Obito= apprentice... Anyways awesome chapter =))
    I cant wait to see the flashbacks of Obito *__*
    except it was a process of corrupting anakin's mind ... here it happened for no apparent reason ... anyway I am looking forward to this flashback
    Why Tobi can't be Obito (or Rin):

    Year 0 for our purposes:
    We know that Madara and Tobi knew each other (confirmed by Kishi) and gave Madara's Rinnegan to Nagato.
    Year 5:
    J-Man trains Nagato
    Year 10:
    Obito is born.Tobi might be using Obito's eye but that is improbable since it would most likely be MS technique BUT considering how much he's been using it he would be blind by now. Itachi used it very sporadically and was blind, same Sasuke-Tobi is spamming it for 17 years and is OK?

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    MMh how Madara can make a difference between a KB and the original ? Aren't they supposed to be EXACTLY the same to anyone, even chakra wise ? It can't be thanks to the Rinnengan otherwise the fight against Pain and Obito would have been different.

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    If Madara could be revived in his prime with Rinnegan then why couldn't Nagato? Kishi doesn't think these things through.

    We should see how Obito gave Nagato the Rinnegan in the next few chapters. Obito might have killed Nagato's parents, thus giving him the requirements to unlock it. I don't see how Nagato could use entirely exclusive Rinnegan jutsu and Madara or Obito can't. Also if Nagato literally received Madara's Rinnegan then shouldn't he have had Susano'o?

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gats View Post
    MMh how Madara can make a difference between a KB and the original ? Aren't they supposed to be EXACTLY the same to anyone, even chakra wise ? I can't be thanks to the Rinnengan otherwise the fight against Pain and Obito would have been different.
    No its neither the Sharingan nor the Rinnengan that helps him. Madara is experienced and knows far too much. He has fought clones that are exactly the same as the original and has made quite a few of his own. He even witnessed a cloned Naruto level his whole forest. So i guess he became accustomed or could sense the power difference or similarities.

    Or that he could not sense the kyuubi inside of the clone. There are a few valid explanations though.
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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    I apologize for my useless comment but I just died a little inside upon reaching that page where Tsunade is shown cut in half. ; -;

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack View Post
    Either way (as a Huge Naruto's, Kakashi's and Gai's fan) i can't see them winning here.How to take down immortal Madara? How to take down Obito, when Kakashi is almost exhausted?
    It is time for the eight gates to be opened...

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaStar View Post
    But Tobi said that he believed Sasuke could possibly surpass Nagato. I don't think he even considered comparing him to Madara. That would be ludicrous at this point.
    You know...Madara wouldn't be such a beast without a Hashirama implant...if Oro patches up Sasuke with something similar, then the Rinnegan is right around the corner, and Sasuke's chakra was compared to Madara, even more sinister...I'm not sure about abilities, but the power of hatred is a great one, so I wouldn't underestimate Sasuke at this point...nor Orochimaru

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by GomuGomu_Getsuga View Post
    If Madara could be revived in his prime with Rinnegan then why couldn't Nagato? Kishi doesn't think these things through.

    We should see how Obito gave Nagato the Rinnegan in the next few chapters. Obito might have killed Nagato's parents, thus giving him the requirements to unlock it. I don't see how Nagato could use entirely exclusive Rinnegan jutsu and Madara or Obito can't. Also if Nagato literally received Madara's Rinnegan then shouldn't he have had Susano'o?
    For one, this war was mostly about Fan service. And reviving an Old Madara will not serve the plot nor show the huge difference in power between this generation and Madara/Hashiramas generation.

    I still believe that Naruto is going to somehow use the DG to revive the previous Kages at some point to fight off Madaras army. Because I honestly do not think that Naruto is going to survive this and there will be a round 2 or Part 3 of Naruto.
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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    This is superb writing. Madara kicks asses and makes chills flow over your back at every panel, just like the real badass he is. The off panelled Kage fight makes perfect sense: Madara is too much over powered, a massacre is the only possible outcome. The Obito meets ol' Maddy flashback will put an end to the "plotholes" thing. I am waiting for 600 more chapters Kishi...

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gats View Post
    MMh how Madara can make a difference between a KB and the original ? Aren't they supposed to be EXACTLY the same to anyone, even chakra wise ? I can't be thanks to the Rinnengan otherwise the fight against Pain and Obito would have been different.
    Isn't the Sharingan suppose to be able to tell the difference? Didn't Sasuke do so against the Ame ninja in the forest of death. Or am I off base with that? Also, didn't Madara say that his eyes were able to tell the difference between Hashirama and his wood clones? Which was said by Madara himself to be the perfect clone technique. so it stands to reason, even if the former weren't true, that Madara would be able to tell the difference between Naruto and his clones.

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by benelori View Post
    You know...Madara wouldn't be such a beast without a Hashirama implant...if Oro patches up Sasuke with something similar, then the Rinnegan is right around the corner, and Sasuke's chakra was compared to Madara, even more sinister...I'm not sure about abilities, but the power of hatred is a great one, so I wouldn't underestimate Sasuke at this point...nor Orochimaru
    His chakra may be sinister but it is not the same as Madaras. Simply comparing something to another does not make them the same or equal. But also the fact that Madara is an exception in this Manga, experience never played much as a factor in most old vs young fights but it seems that it applies to him. Even with just the EMS Madara was truely scary.

    He knows the Uchiha inside out and if Sasuke was to even try his hatred nonsense on him, he would be obliterated. And also you forget, Madara is the epitome and complete embodiment of Uchiha hatred. The guy lived and breathed hate.
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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Murdock View Post
    yeah another cheap shot ... I've never liked riddukou toys or Itachi's toys for that matter ... but this is just ridiculous it seems that it absorbs attacks and than sends them back at you ... just like Utikate's shikai ... it's another hax for Madara ... I mean seriously how many free gifts does he get, mokuton, ET, self regenerating even if he wasn't ET, unlimited chakra, rinnegan, unbeatable self repeling fan ... too much in my book ... I would rather see him use cool jutsus than this ...

    Anyway Obito story is gonna be interesting ... still I think Kishi will not be able to explain timeline loopholes IMO because for him there are none in my opinion
    Well the manga stopped being about the coolness of jutsus a while ago...sometime around the Rinnegan and the Kage Summit...that's the turning point for me in terms of powerlevel changes in this manga...

    Yeah...I'm looking forward to Obito as well and Madara's tutelage the most...

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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by KiSwordsman View Post
    Isn't the Sharingan suppose to be able to tell the difference? .
    No neither the sharingan, byakugan or rinnengan can tell the difference between a clone and the original. Unless Kishi decides to retcon this
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    Re: Naruto 601 Discussion / 602 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gats View Post
    MMh how Madara can make a difference between a KB and the original ? Aren't they supposed to be EXACTLY the same to anyone, even chakra wise ? It can't be thanks to the Rinnengan otherwise the fight against Pain and Obito would have been different.
    Or now Sharingan can do that now ... I wouldn't be surprised

    Quote Originally Posted by GomuGomu_Getsuga View Post
    If Madara could be revived in his prime with Rinnegan then why couldn't Nagato? Kishi doesn't think these things through.

    We should see how Obito gave Nagato the Rinnegan in the next few chapters. Obito might have killed Nagato's parents, thus giving him the requirements to unlock it. I don't see how Nagato could use entirely exclusive Rinnegan jutsu and Madara or Obito can't. Also if Nagato literally received Madara's Rinnegan then shouldn't he have had Susano'o?
    because it would make sence? how dare you want kishi to make sence

    except he couldn't becuase Nagato is older than Obito ... at the time Nagato is trained by J-Man Obito is 10 years old ... that is the closest possibility ... the most probable thing is that when J-Man finds Nagato obito isn't even born yet ... remember J-man found nagato at the end of 2nd war ... obito died at the end of 3rd war
    Why Tobi can't be Obito (or Rin):

    Year 0 for our purposes:
    We know that Madara and Tobi knew each other (confirmed by Kishi) and gave Madara's Rinnegan to Nagato.
    Year 5:
    J-Man trains Nagato
    Year 10:
    Obito is born.Tobi might be using Obito's eye but that is improbable since it would most likely be MS technique BUT considering how much he's been using it he would be blind by now. Itachi used it very sporadically and was blind, same Sasuke-Tobi is spamming it for 17 years and is OK?

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