Claymore 131 Discussions

[number12michael]

When I was reading Gernot's translation for the first time this part immediately caught my eye:

I don't get why would Clare say that she now can sense movement that is outside of her field of vision when she has performed her attacks with her eyes closed (e.g. when she defeated Duff along with Jean, it was pre-emptive youki sensing + Quick Sword).

And I can tell you right now, it's definitely not a translation error (in fact this part is super accurate). Here's what Gernot had to say about that:


Any thoughts on this? Because for now it looks like PYS is an even less useful technique than I initially thought and Rafaela's technique is the absolute youki-sensing technique applicable in combat conditions since any movement can be detected that way (so cloaked Claymores would not be a problem).

P.S.
Heh, it seems I'm the only old-timer willing to discuss Claymore and trigger the discussions. Not good. Where are the times where the same thing was being posted by different people in a matter of seconds and there was a brain storming that would put to shame any discussion we've had in a whole last year?

are you sure these old timers are even still alive :3

but that is odd so she is sensing outside her field of vision yet her eyes were closed....maybe she means that she almost has a "spidey sense" of sorts like she can tell when something comes near her even if she is facing the other way

[Brother Coa]

P.S.
Heh, it seems I'm the only old-timer willing to discuss Claymore and trigger the discussions. Not good. Where are the times where the same thing was being posted by different people in a matter of seconds and there was a brain storming that would put to shame any discussion we've had in a whole last year?

It's not that, it's just that people don't know about what to discuss when they know like 90% of fluff. In that regard we can only discuss about what will happened in the future chapters or how certain technic works. Everything else is much/less known to all, except for some things that happened in the past ( like how Miria recognized all those AB's ) but since we have no proff we can only speculate.
But not al lis grim, I remember in chapter 128 when Yagi introduced mysterious gear many people speculate what coudl that be. many had great ideas, you were also notable with bomb idea. I am sure there will be a lot of discussion, nut only when Yagi gives us something interesting to debate about.

[MalakTawus]

Maybe Claire is just surprised that she can sense everything using a different technique from PSY, or maybe she is just surprised 'cause thanx to Raphaela's memories she can sense all that in a more "natural way".

[Falcor]

When I was reading Gernot's translation for the first time this part immediately caught my eye:

視野から外れた動きまで細かく感知できるかのような…
it's like I can sense in detail even such movement that is outside of my field of vision...

I don't get why would Clare say that she now can sense movement that is outside of her field of vision when she has performed her attacks with her eyes closed (e.g. when she defeated Duff along with Jean, it was pre-emptive youki sensing + Quick Sword).

And I can tell you right now, it's definitely not a translation error (in fact this part is super accurate). Here's what Gernot had to say about that:

The difference in fighting style is not very obvious to me either. She doesn't say anything about being able to detect the opponent's youki, she says she can now detect movement, even such that is outside of her field of vision...

Any thoughts on this? Because for now it looks like PYS is an even less useful technique than I initially thought and Rafaela's technique is the absolute youki-sensing technique applicable in combat conditions since any movement can be detected that way (so cloaked Claymores would not be a problem).

Maybe Claire is just surprised that she can sense everything using a different technique from PSY, or maybe she is just surprised 'cause thanx to Raphaela's memories she can sense all that in a more "natural way".

I'd have to agree with Malak; sounds to me like Clare is making a distinction between using her own youki to sense movements, ie a sight enhancement, versus reading the opponent's youki. Subtle, but quite significant difference, since one relies on reading youki to work effectively, while the other can be used against any opponent whether or not any youki is used or detectable.

[gnut]

I'd have to agree with Malak; sounds to me like Clare is making a distinction between using her own youki to sense movements, ie a sight enhancement, versus reading the opponent's youki. Subtle, but quite significant difference, since one relies on reading youki to work effectively, while the other can be used against any opponent whether or not any youki is used or detectable.

exactly like the blind swordsman from ninja scroll...one of the seven devils.
he almost killed jubei through just hearing/sensing his movements...that's what i see in my head,that kind of technique...imo

[Bayuga]

i think, it would be cool, if clare would kill raki. he traveled many years with her biggest enemy, and it was his fault, that priscilla has found clare. and now, he is still hiding the fact, that he knows priscilla. i would not be suprised, if raki prefers priscilla and will help her to survive. so clare, you know what you have to do. to say it with mortal kombat style: finish him!

for me is raki the jar jar binks of claymore. he plays his role in yagi's story, but he is so extrem annoying.

[Brother Coa]

For me is Raki the Jar Jar binks of Claymore. he plays his role in yagi's story, but he is so extremely annoying.

Well Jar Jar was not main love interest for main heroine...
Remember he is Human who want to help in fight against superhumans, of course he is annoying sometimes because he enters the fight where he cannot possible win. But he is a good character and has a good hearth ad that is why people like him.

[Bayuga]

clare is not a pedo, so this was only a brother/sister kiss.

[MalakTawus]

In my world we don't kiss our sisters/brothers like this (especially considering that it was a kiss with the mouth open).

[kaori13]

It seems to me that a few pages ago, you guys were discussing why and how the fast-regenerating AB lack feminine feature. Well, actually I also have no clue on why.
But the problem is that, to me, that AB isn't a "she" to begin with. I mean, whenever I look at the 1st page of this chap, I really think there is one male and one female on that page. Or... did I miss something!?

PS: about the kiss, I think putting in the context would make more sense. So, what's that chapter?

[Bayuga]

maybe ... but the relationship between raki and clare is little brother and big sister, and not boy-girlfriend. some perverts want this for some reasons, but i definitive not.

galk and cid are male characters, who fight against yoma and awakened beings, and they are not annoying like raki. if yagi really needs a cool man for the story, why he made not a male claymore who has survived and can control the yomapower how the girls. it would be great, to see a male warrior who fights together with miria and the others. the male number 5 would be a perfect candidate, because we know nothing about him. this would be much better than our idiotic raki.

[Brother Coa]

clare is not a pedo, so this was only a brother/sister kiss.

I never said she was a pedo ( now that is normal because she remained the same and Raki has grown up ), and SUREEEE I also kiss all my brothers and sisters like that.

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maybe ... but the relationship between raki and clare is little brother and big sister, and not boy-girlfriend. some perverts want this for some reasons, but i definitive not.

Sorry to disappoint you but you are in big minority here.

[Bayuga]

that's absolutely ok for me. but it does not changed my opinion. in scene 129 we saw no kissing or something similar, only a hug.

you could also say, that priscilla and raki are a pair of lovers, because they slept together in a bed.

[Brother Coa]

Maybe because they really don't have time to get along because Priscilla is just like 5 meters away from them and killing everything she see.
To Clare battling Priscilla always come before anything else, we will see how will they act after the battle when they get some time alone with each other...

[number12michael]

It seems to me that a few pages ago, you guys were discussing why and how the fast-regenerating AB lack feminine feature. Well, actually I also have no clue on why.
But the problem is that, to me, that AB isn't a "she" to begin with. I mean, whenever I look at the 1st page of this chap, I really think there is one male and one female on that page. Or... did I miss something!?

PS: about the kiss, I think putting in the context would make more sense. So, what's that chapter?

its human form looked like a girl to me but you could be right it could have been a male(because from what i have seen every awakened being that is female has breasts(hell even flat chested Cassandra's awakened body had breasts )

And not to drag this conversation into the mud but could her(the regenerating awakened) lack of breasts be the same as male awakened beings not having exposed genitals... you would think they would still have them with the whole yoki release feels like sexual release thing(but dont get me wrong i am kinda glad as all those scenes with Duph would have been awkward lol)

Edit: and Riful saying that duph was the only one who could "accept" her without being ripped to pieces to me that suggests that awakened beings can infact have sex(tho i could be misinterpreting what she said)