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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
I'm talking about the "Chrysanthemum petals wither and fall together" line specifically. Japanese terms for June, August, and September moons of the lunar calendar are the "Waterless Moon (水無月)," "Leaf Moon (葉月)," and "Chrysanthemum Moon (菊月)." "Withering" corresponds to the Waterless Moon (June), petals correspond to the Leaf Moon (August), and chrysanthemums correspond to the Chrysanthemum Moon (September).
Of course, these terms aren't known to English speakers. So Viz used the English names of these full moons in their translation and altered that line of the poem to reflect this.
Last edited by Popo; November 04, 2012 at 03:31 PM.
EDIT: Noticed Popo replied. Well I have been put to shame haha :P
ALSO since I haven't said what I thought of the episode yet I will now.
I am absolutely loving Madhouse's treatment of the character Nobunaga, he is my favourite Troupe member and is being handled with a great deal of care and attention in this adaptation. I loved the fortune scenes and the way this episode ended. Is Hisoka about to be revealed? Why did his fortune change? Nobu is about to rip him up! Great ending.
I also want to comment on the tape being thrown about at the beginning of the episode. Anyone else reminded of Chapter Black? That was the first thing I thought of. Would be interesting if Chapter Black exists in HxH world. Funnily enough Chrollo is similar to Sensui in appearance wouldn't you say? Funny that he would be playing with a tape like that if he watched it with the Troupe it would certainly explain why they see no wrong in killing.
All in all very good episode looking forward to next weeks!
Last edited by futurefrog; November 04, 2012 at 05:57 PM.
Im an anime only watcher, and I understood what Hisoka did, mostly because the mood shifted (the intensity in his eyes) and the way Hisoka handed over the paper, like he knew that his plans wouldn't be found out.
But I completely understand where yuyunarutoballz is coming from, because when the narrator said that Hisoka's fate had changed when Pakunoda read it I can see why people would be curious why it changed.
But I remembered his technique from when he fought Kastro and I thought it would be great to change his fortune. Also seeing as how the prophecy changed in a way that didn't unveil Hisoka's plans out right, I believed he was up to it (and he had that smug look he has, even Hisoka gets surprised sometimes.)
I doubt that Chapter Black is somewhere in Meteor City, since I think it's too "dangerous" to be left alone. Anyway, people, focus on HxH.
1)I was just spurting out nonsense.I don't think it really matter which number he is.
3)That is going to be in the list of "forgotten side story"
But then again, we saw how the Phantom Troupe who are from Meteor City responded to Uvogin's death: A full-scale attack on Yorknew's mafia dedicated to their fallen comrade and friend.
I was referring to the part where the nameless dude from the agency appear.(since that incident was mentioned by him, I may have gotten confused with these two scenes). My bad.>.>Quote:
@ZonikStrike -Maybe Meteor City have nuclear weapon or some natural resources that only Meteor City has? .It is not far fetch to believe that the residents of Meteor City are capable of building weapons of mass destruction.Nobody knows anything about these people and they could do as they please.While the mafia are supplying weapons to them, they could also be supplying better and stronger weapons back to the mafia.(I'm aware that it doesn't make much sense as to why they would do that)The whole of meteor city is literally full of scrap metal.
Hi guys, long time lurker, manga reader.
It's really cool how they decided that Hisoka's fortune "change" is a cliffhanger. Anime only people are going to feel like watching something like Death Note next week.
@Akia999 I think they mentioned that mafia supplies Meteor City with weapons so that they can get bodyguards/disposabe mooks for free or at a discount. I am betting Injyuu to be from Meteor City if the Anime is followed. Of course, it contradicts with the "everyone is family" in Meteor City, but i really doubt that everyone are friends there.
But kamikaze attack imo is much more frightening. Of course they knew PT are dangerous. But when it turned out that they are from Meteor City it became twice as dangerous (if we mention the kamikaze incident). That's why Mafia stopped chasing it; it was more clear in manga imo.
And yes, of course Meteor City was important for Mafia as non-existent people would always come in handy. But the lack of them would never do the same harm as PT did. It's not that they didn't want to lose the bond, they just were frightened by MC - that's the impression I got from manga.
And most of all I just wanted to hear this line:
We accept everything. Don't take anything back.
The least I can do is to put this omitted incident here for anime-only watchers to read =3
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After rewatching the episode again, I thought MH really placed accents excellent. And the storytelling was perfect. Plus I love every single bit of September the Fourth. So I decided to raise my mark to 9.5/10. My only complaint is the omission of kamikaze incident.
I don't think this episode was rushed at all. You know what, I don't think I have major complaints except for the lack of explanation regarding Meteor City and its residents (kamikaze incident), and that the cliffhanger wasn't really a cliffhanger (I think it would be better to end it when Kurapika finds out the Spiders are alive). Though on second thought, the ending kinda works too because the audience is gonna wonder about Hisoka's motives. But overall, good job MH!
Oh my. I've blabbered on again. orz
The same as the ones participated in the requiem attack with the addition of Shizuku and excluding Uvo who was dead and Nobunaga who stayed behind.
Shizuku might be from Meteor City as well because they didn't find any info about her.
And well, I was thinking that Nobunaga look was a better cliffhanger than Kurapika knowing about the spiders, since watchers already knew about the fake bodies and don't have any idea why Hisoka does what He does. And He's so freaking awesome.
And well, not so sure. Ahead in the manga there is a particular chapter about Meteor City that lead me to some questions. We will see.
I have a question -
It is just a small minor detail, but it really caught my interest:
In the Madhouse adaption on Crunchyroll, the line form Hisoka's prophecy in reference to Chrollo refers to him as "a man bearing St. Peter's cross."
In the Nippon adaptation, Chrollo is refered to as "a man who revolts against the cross".
Which one of these is closer to the original, or how is he referred to in Togashi's original writing.
I am really interested in the Troupe as residents of Meteor City, and on representations of religion within it, within them, and within the world of HxH as a whole. Whether Chrollo is a man who bears Saint Peter's cross or a man who revolts against the cross could tell a lot about his character in relation to the question of religion.
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Also, I loved this episode in the Madhouse adaptation. In my opinion, with the construction of atmosphere and tension in the Troupe scenes, it is one of the best episodes of the anime series, even without any action. I agree with lazyfiend in that it felt very much like a Death Note episode. I definitely got that kind of a vibe, with Hisoka as Light and Chrollo as L.
I loved the final shot of Chrollo. His incredibly patient, waiting demeanor contrasting so perfectly Nobunaga's earnest rise to action - it makes him look so powerful.
And, in praise of Togashi as a writer, I love how, even against that confident power, and even amidst all the powerful characters of the Phantom Troupe, Hisoka can still come across as frightening.
Last edited by EverEndingStory; November 05, 2012 at 12:53 PM.
St. Peter's cross is the reversed cross that we see at Chrollo's coat. The reversed cross is associated with devil worshipers or the Satanists. Also, if you remember when Chrollo and Uvo were discussing the possibility of a Judas among the troupe, Chrollo said he doesn't see Judas as a traitor. Maybe that gives us a hint on the matter.