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Translations: Bleach 600 (2)
This episode was great and served it's purpose. We all know that this is simply the downtime until the truly important stuff. I know Zepile and Leorio fans hate to admit it but in the grand scheme of things they are not as important in this story arc as the Phantom Troupe. We should see the Troupe as the main story line of this arc revolves around them, if you don't like it I really don't see how you like this arc so much in the manga because it is the same. It's all about Kurapika and the Troupe with a bit of Gon and Killua mixed in. This episode introduced some necessary plot elements are got us from point A to point B, that is all it had to do and it did it just fine. Sure there were omissions but honestly 2 whole weeks of this would have been overkill, Madhouse knows this, so they simply created a collection of the most important points. It flowed great and did everything it needed to do. Also to those going on about Killua not mentioning Silva fighting the Troupe, I think Madhouse is removing that in order to keep Silva and Zeno vs Chrollo a surprise to non manga fans. Killua calling that out is a clear flag that Silva will get involved some how, better to have Silva himself reveal his past with the Troupe in my opinion. Just makes more sense anime wise.
lol. this episode was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. 5/10. 6/10 at MOST.
Though, tbh, the music selections were exactly what I expected (sans TO-MO-DA-CHI).
A wild guess:
Last edited by Popo; September 23, 2012 at 03:16 AM.
I thought the episode was enjoyable. I wasn't disappointed, but I can't say I'm completely satisfied. I didn't expect much (although I wanted to) because I'm sure Madhouse wouldn't focus much on this episode. Because hey, this is Kurapika's arc. The spotlight's on him and the Spiders.
Music was weird this week; at times it fit, other times it didn't. Zepile was awesome though, as he should be. Overall, the episode flowed pretty nicely except that the last part felt a bit... lacking to me. The episode was good; I can't say it was bad because it really was enjoyable, and Madhouse probably meant this more as a transition episode for the next part of Yorkshin rather than something to focus on. I guess it's good in the long run because a lot of people are excited for Kurapika and the Spiders; they don't want to be bogged down by 'transition scenes'.
To be honest, what disappoints me more is not the episode itself, but the thought that Madhouse probably made the right choice by rushing this episode for the viewers who want to see the action. I'm not sure how else I can explain this. I can understand why MH rushed the episode, and it does make sense if you're thinking about the majority of the viewers. I guess it's one of those majority minority things. You can't please everybody.
No, the episode wasn't bad. It was actually enjoyable (if a bit lacking), and it did flow nicely. At the very least, MH tries to give the same message and tone; I really think this is the best we can get for a manga adaptation.
You know, maybe that's why mr.sticky and I are disappointed. This is the best we can get for a manga adaptation.
MH still rules though.
See, I don't think Togashi is the perfect mangaka. A genius, sure. But he's not perfect. I think one of his problems is that he has the tendency to introduce a whooooole bunch of characters in a short amount of time. I never know where to put my focus on, and I can never remember everyone when everything is happening so fast. So I really like how MH gave me time to acquaint myself with the Nostrade employees, especially since they're the first ones to die. The readers/viewers only had a short amount of time to get to know them, and that can easily be overshadowed by the introduction of the Spiders.
When the Nostrade employees died in the manga, I seriously didn't care that much. With the anime, I now felt sorry for everyone. And it better pushes the idea that the Spiders are ruthless because now I am actually familiar with the people whom they killed.
Basically, the anime got a more emotional response from me in that regard, which I think is a good thing.
However, I do see your point. I also don't like how they can give fillers to people like Baise, and yet they cut stuff out when it comes to Zepile.
I honestly think it's the best way to go if you want to consider the majority of the viewers. That doesn't mean I have to like it though.
I think the previously bolded statements summarizes my whole thoughts about the episode.
Last edited by Uriel; September 23, 2012 at 08:57 AM.
Ho boy, its getting heated in here. As a Zepile fan I'm secretly glad to see these chapters getting such a discussion, I always felt some people hated these chapters. I would have to agree with Sticky mostly, it just doesn't bug me that much. Not nearly that much, but the main reason for a lot of these cuts is for pacing, but its also probably because of the filler bits they've added here and there. I'm really curious how brand new fans are taking to this arc as a whole, because I always felt Yorknew was so different from everything else in Hunter x Hunter before it (mostly due to its Kurapika character focus and more realistic setting)
Yup, masses don't like too much talking in their Shonen series. How Gon GETS Greed island sadly isn't that interesting to people, at least not those rewatching the series for one. It's a shame because I do find it interesting. I definitely hope they take their time with the Greed Island arc, though I do genuinely find some of the card stuff boring (or mostly unimportant save for a few specific parts that move the story forward) (unlike the auction stuff)
Last edited by Uriel; September 23, 2012 at 09:05 AM.
You know, omissions didn't bother me that much. My main complaint is... WHY THE HELL WAS BALDY WORKING AT A SHOP!?
This change didn't make sense at all. I mean, in the manga Baldy's point was to lower the price, but what was it here? I doubt he could prove there isn't any treasure inside to make them sell the statue. He could make them doubt it, but then everything can be checked. What was he trying to achieve here at all?
Well, other than that episode wasn't so bad, I'd say 7.5/10. But so far the worst of the YS arc. I'll stick to the opinion they shouldn't have rushed that much and better made two episodes.
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As for Killua's story about Silva, I really hope they'll move it to the next chapter when they're talking before the chase.
The episode is pretty descent, so it was his licence I thought Ging's was pawned... This is what happened when I skip some pages I dont want to reread...
OMG since I saw ... I so want to make my own (customize) Hunter licence .... but I dont know those things written in it... I am sure the bigger charas are the name but what about the ones under? should I copy it also? and the 2011 design of the back( i only saw the 99 design ones)? I think it should have date when I passed I kinda dont remember how that look like....
Just a heads up... this episode would take longer than usual to get all the notes down.
This episode was really disappointing for manga fans.Overall,it was a good episode but the part with Baldy...
It was just a mix of manga chapters, i had the impression to watch a filler or a recap.
What make me really laugh is the people who act like 2 episodes (just 2) on Gon's stuff are unbearable and act like it will ruin the entire flow of the arc. It's just 2 episodes of journey, discovery, and tranquility. How boring did you find these 4 chapters ?
It's not like a 30 episodes filler arc placed in the middle of an arc, or a War arc with a very horrendous pacing.
There is no excuse for MH rushing this part. At least, for Nippon Animation, i can imagine that they rush it because of their dead line, but what is Madhouse's excuse (i don't buy the majority crap. Majority wanted the Sushi exam part, and there wasn't).
Another thing that doesn't make sense at all for me is the Benz Knife scene. In addition to reducing Killua's explanation about him (we did'nt even get his picture whereas when Melody explained the dowsing, it was extended and i found this really cool. Not even Killua's thought about his father liking Benz ) WHY would Killua tell this story in front of the dumb seller, but most importantly WHY ON EARTH DIDN'T THEY BUY IT ????? I thought they were IN NEED OF MONEY.
No sense at all.
I think, this was unnoticed cause well, in this version Killua didn't precise the price.
Manga make much more sense :
- Gon notice some stuff
- Killua "oh... Could it be ...? " Leorio, since you're good at trading, get it.
- Haha, got it for 300 jenis.
- Killua : "Yeah, like i thought" .... story .... We can sell this shit for at least 5 million.
They skipped the scenes but still made it sound like it happened. Bald guy in the shop is working alongside the other guy trying to scam them, how is it out of nowhere? Sure he had a different job in the manga but the change was smooth. For people who weren't expecting him to appear later, his position makes sense. It's only out of nowhere to you because it surprised you that he had a change of role.
The rest was included and was done well. 8/10