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Just wanted to share something that is bugging me as soon as i read this chapter.
Law proposed to Luffy to bring down one of the Yonko, so going for exclusion i'd say it could be only Kaidou, because if it was Shanks, Luffy would never accept his proposal, also if it was Big Mama it would be too convenient because it could be said that Luffy is already on short terms with her, then remains only Blackbeard, and I (as probably all of you) think that it's too early for that, so the only possible target should be Kaidou.
Now why should his plan on bringing down one of the Yonko start by fighting Doflamingo? and also the way Dofla crew keeps calling him Young Master made me think of this, brace yourselves: Doflamingo is Kaido's son!
Waiting for your response maybe i'm forgetting something important, if it is so please enlighten me.
Last edited by Toniberto; September 19, 2012 at 07:14 AM.
Neither we know who is the Yonko they want to target too (yes, your reasoning is pretty much right when it comes to Shanks and BB, but no BM)
the son Garp too? .. Zehahahahahahahahahahah
@toniberto, your resoning about Big Mom is weak man. Even if BM is the yonkou targeted, still there will be so many chapters to read before we could see an eventual meeting between Luffy and BM. I think it would help you to read some predictions about BM as yonkou targeted. Posts about it: here and here.
And, I don't think you need to open a new thread for your feeling about current plot development. It would fit perfectly in the thread for current chapter.
Buggy is Bugging you!
It'd certainly be interesting - if only there wasn't another Yonkou threatening Luffy. Luffy is crazy, but there's no way he'd go fight 2 (of 4) Yonkou, and one of the stronger Shichibukai, just like that, even in an alliance with Law.
And so the first part of the prophecy comes true!
Well jokes aside, I was a fool not expecting that Luffy would want to fight Shanks right away...
About the second part of my "visionary" plot, I'm still convinced that Dofla is strongly related to Kaidou, even more now that we know all about the SAD and its relation with Kaidou.
Sorry about bringing up this old topic but I just had to gloat a little bit after the 696
I doubt they are relatives. Business partners sounds more like it. I even think it could possible Doflimgo is the "power behind the throne". Stop SAD production, defeat Dofla, and Kaido is merely a strong pirate, no longer on the same tier as Shanks, Mam, and Teach.
I think Kaidou was just a highest bidder for artificial devil fruits. It was probably the same as with the online demonstration of Shinokuni and selling pseudo devil fruits to everyone is a bad business move.
However, I won't dismiss the possibility that their relationship is not just business. Maybe not father and son, but only friends or something like that. But I don't see them being too tight, since Doflamingo wants to become the king as well.
If that is true, then I wonder why Law made such a point of destroying the SAD facility. There has to be a reason why eliminated SAD and Smile was the first step in his plan, why it was an important key to defeating Kaido. You would think destroying Punk Hazard would somehow weaken Kaido's position.
At the moment, we do not know if defeating Dofla is part of Law's plan. I assume it is, only because Law would expect Dofla to retaliate. Smile might be the only thing that matters to Kaido, not Dofla himself. But permanently stopping SAD production wouldn't be possible until Dofla is defeated.
change. Since the big players refused to start the new era, the new players are gonna do it. Taking out CC, thus making DD move first, who is also a huge part of the NW, is supposed to lead to Kaidou making a move. Once he moves, the other Yonkou should start to move, too, thus opening opportunities for the new generation. Of course i doubt that it will exactly go that way, especially considering that Law now has an alliance with Luffy.
This thread made me realize what i was saying two years ago (oh man...) in a thread that i won't revive for that sole tiny post !
When we saw Kaido's island we understood that he was working with Vegapunk at the time. Just like with Kuma, they certainly made a deal which benefits both sides.
Now that you point up Doflamingo, it reminds me of Moria's "assassination" by his hands. We don't know yet who was the silent partner but with the Devil Fruits' quest in mind, i assumed it was Vegapunk... but what could Doflamingo want in return ?
Well, it didn't occur to me to link the SAD with this scene up until now.
Basically, both of them work hypothetically with Vegapunk. And Doflamingo with the SAD in hands surely has made deals with powerful characters of the New World, maybe even Kaido. Law, who worked for Dofla, wants to take down this Yonkou in particular. So i'm wondering if he's interested in Vegapunk himself. (seems a bit wrong though)
Another theory, we know that Moria lost his crew in the new world : Maybe it's Kaidou's hobby to destroy pirates crews and Law suffered the same fate as Moria's. Thus, a revenge or, in case which Kaidou doesn't kill but collects people like a weirdo, take back his nakamas from him.
We do have to consider that destroying the SAD facility was only step one. This might be one step in an effort to weaken his position, there might be more that needs to be done before they can actually fight him. The cumulative effect of Law's plan might be to weaken Kaido's position to the point where he and Luffy can fight him and win. I don't think Punk Hazard was just a ploy to gain his attention though. Law purposefully chose it, and the consequences will be far reaching enough that he was willing to challenge Dofla first. I think this will more than restrict Kaido's ability to expand, but seriously weaken his ability to defend his position. It might not yet be enough to defeat him, but enough to make that goal more realistic.