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Now I can't stop thinking that the left eye of Madara seen in chapter 602 has been passed to Obito, and is the same eye that was sealed when he used Izanagi against Konan.
Remember that Kotoamatsukami doesn't require eye contact, since Danzo has been used it under the bandages? That would be the reason why Tobi mask has only one hole.
That would explain a lot of things, especially how Madara brainwashed Obito, or how Kisame couldn't tell the difference beetween their faces.
something i wrote about two weeks ago:
my take on this...Quote:
Ao said he fought Shisui before. If Shisui was of the same age as Itachi, he died at age 13, and since his eye could only be activated during the 4th war, he used it for the last time at age 11-12.
then i would like to know how madara/tobi/obito/whoever controlled yagura without this tech...or atleast something similar to it.
because logically...yagura's bijuu would break him out of a genjutsu(right?)....
not when they aren't friends
Maybe yes , maybe no... But man , this eye technique is so hax and broken , another technique that would let a random guy beat anyone in 1V1 as long as they dont know about the technique (order to suicide or something like that)
too bad danzou (who had 3 hours cooldown only thanks to hashirama cells ) never used it on the third to make him resigne and appoint him as the fifth hockage (more like plothole if you ask me...)
the three tails gave him chakra and stamina...i imagine there was some kind of pact between the two.unless,yagura was a lil like gaara and suppressed the 3Ts and sap it's power somehow.
he did have some kind of coral jutsu...maybe he could suppress the 3Twith this...like yamato using mokuton on naruto for example(but on himself)...shrugs
hope you get what i'm trying to say...
yeah I get it but I think mastered doesn't also mean the bijuu will break him from genjutsu, maybe he mastered it to the degree in terms of power and not making the 3 tails a teammate like naruto and bee did.
he reigned for so long and no one tried him like oro did(and that was when he was just 5/10 yrs to old)...even obito didn't mess with the third nor madara.
back to point...if madara is hooked to the mazou and it's feeding him hashirama cells...who's to say the eye he's using isn't like shisui's and maybe...just maybe able to see other events(like sarutobi's crystal ball did...lol)and control yagura.
plus,the mazou may let madara just spam KA...
i'm really starting to believe lately that shisui and obito will end up being related...
both deal with reality jutsus...
1)shisui changes the reality in your mind with kotoamatsukami...i know itachi's genjutsu can hurt you but control you?
2)obito changes reality with kamui...jumping back and forth in dimensions...a kind of self genjutsu like izanagi(imho...)
where sasuke/itachi/madara's jutsus are alittle more on the offensive side...with amaterasu,susanoo and such
LOL good point ...
tobi's mangeyku is basically a spammable izanagi
The mystery regarding how the hell didnt he go blind is still unsolved . The guy uses mangeyku to travel , to joke with others ... Sasuke was in troubles after 3 battles and needed an EMS
bet you it's hashirama cells
As for Yagura we will find out what happened with him(as we dont know why or how his tailed beast was removed and left to run free)
But i doubt that Madara has KA...its more logical that Madara manipulates Obito...Rins death could have finally forced obito to see that what Madara said was true and that there would would be better off sleeping forever.
My big question is why did Tobi never try to get his other Eye back
How would Oldara have Shisui's eye? You do know Shisui was around Itachi's age, right? Itachi was a small kid during the Kyuubi incident about 1 year after Oldara met Brokito. Assuming Kishi gives a flying crap about his timeline at this point, Shisui would be a decade from activating his MS and Kotoamatsukami. I highly doubt Madara had the same ability in a random stolen eye. That would just be incredibly cheap. I'm sorry, but it looks like it's going down the route of Rin dying and Obito going crazy over it.
Just so it's clear: Danzou had Shisui's eye #1. Itachi had Shisui's eye #2 and put it into a crow.
Last edited by 3c; September 25, 2012 at 05:23 AM.
Obito recalling his encounter with Madara
He also seems to remember his Konoha past quite well. I think we have good reason to believe that Obito is acting on his own and not under any jutsu.
But one also wonders what other choice he had, without Madara's help he was literally dead.