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Chuunin Exam was a total rip-off.
-They begin with meeting a veteran, who tells the protagonists about the participants.
-The second phase examiners also look and act similar. (Menchi, not Buhara lol)
-While the most dangerous participant is a somewhat gay/pedo/weirdo who is after one of the main cast and has some connection with the deuteragonist's older brother as well as main antagonists' group of the series.
-The deadly forest/island where they have to hunt each other so that at least half of them fails.
-After the second phase is where they meet the "main dude" of the organisation who is an old man.
-Also, the third phase is being hold in a tower and is (in HxH mostly) consists of 1-on-1 battles.
-The final phase is an uncommon tournament, where you don't aim to be the last man standing (rules are still different though).
-The first battle is the main character's one, where he defeats an opponent no one expects him to.
-After some changes in battle order and the deuteragonist's battle everything goes out of control.
I hate when people compare Hunter x Hunter to Naruto. Naruto borrowed a few elements but they're nothing alike. Naruto went completely in its own direction, there plot, purposes, even characters are completely different.
Anyway, yeah, HxH fans bash on Naruto to much can't we just love them both? I know i do. Plus, i love how everybody loves to point out Narutos similarities with HxH but completely ignore the whole Naruto/Goku, Sasuke/Vegeta or Gon/Goten, Killua/Trunks thing.
I agree with Yuyunarutoballz.
I mean, I like HxH more than Naruto, but Naruto isn't a bad or cliche manga at all.
Naruto borrowed elements from HxH at the beggining, but it has built its own plot, and it's nothing like HxH.
Actually I think Naruto outperforms HxH in worldbuilding. Kishimoto's world is far more complex. The mythology about Rikudou and his sons, the moon, or Uchiha vs Senju are examples.
I also find praiseworthy that Naruto is a continous story. While you can separate "arcs", the separation is not so abrupt as in other mangas.
In One Piece they go from island to island with a different enemy in each one. In Bleach the arcs are very long but when they finish is clean slate.
But Naruto has been moving forward the same plot, with Tobi as the final enemy, since years.
Yeah, I don't know why people are trying to bring down Naruto, Its a great manga although the current arc is definitely not my favorite, it has some awesome story telling abilities, and I really like Hunter X Hunter as well, but I like them for different reasons.
Yeah, I know Naruto borrowed some elements of Hunter X Hunter but, The story has transformed completely different, and I loved the Chuunin exam arc, that arc was awesome, and I don't see Naruto as Cliche, sure Naruto the character says some cliche things but its mostly because he uses those same lines over and over, so he kind of made it cliche on his own (yeah, it gets annoying sometimes) but, It is definitely not Cliche in general.
I enjoy both of these manga alot, I was a huge fan of Naruto, Im probably not as big of a fan of the manga anymore, but I still like it, and right now Im loving Hunter X Hunter (Im new to it though, and I enjoy the characters.)
Kurapika and Sasuke have special eyes and their clans have been annihilated, but to say that Naruto=HXH is quite exaggerating IMHO.
Sure, there are a lot of common elements, but the two mangas have a completely different stroyline.
I haven't seen Naruto in awhile, but from what I remember the Chunin Exam also had parts that were similar to Genkai's tournament from Yu Yu Hakusho. Especially the part in both where participants have to survive an evil forest.
One of the big reasons for Togashi making the G.I arc was because Kishimoto kept copying his work and so he went out of his way to do something completely different.
Kurapika has eyes that make him able to do any techniques, and he wants revenge on someone who killed his whole clan and possess a technique to steal other techniques. (Itachi = Kuroro)
Hisoka's whole goal in being a G.R was to fight Kuroro and he then became a semi-mentor for Kurapika during the Y.S arc. (Hisoka = Orochimaru). His intro and the whole forest scene are very similar to Orochimaru's intro too.
I don't have to talk about how Biscuit was flat out copied by Tsunade i hope.
Anyway, Togashi's hiatus as well as G.I and so on meant that Kishomoto had to stop his week-by-week copy of HxH (he was also getting dissed a lot by the japanese public for it), so later on the similarities get rarer, though they do resurface every so often.
I like Naruto, But i prefer read HXH than Naruto, Thats my opinion..
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NARUTO just thrilling for elementary manga fans, the story just to easy to predict, and that "Power of Friendship" of Naruto just to much for fellow manga fans
anyone who think Naruto was master piece thats True, but that view of Manga FANS, not Manga Reader, they just dont know any other manga thats good
Naruto fans is just PLAIN FANS, they like thats another people like, they just dont have their own TASTE
You might as well say Meryem is a copy of Perfect Cell. At least they actually look alike.
If you reduce everything down to one sentence elements then everything copied from everything.
Outside of the obvious copying of the Hunter Exam, there's really not much copying either way just because Togashi's work ethics makes it pretty much impossible for anyone to copy from HXH once you start hitting the GI arc. "Woman with mega strength" is a relatively common subtype and that's about the only thing Biscuit has in common wiht Tsunade.
Bisuke and Tsunade aren't just women with mega strength. They're both old but hide their appearance to make themselves look younger. That's a little TOO specific xD
But yeah, I know what you mean.
One of the biggest selling point of aura is that it allows you to shave about 10 to 20 years off your apparent age (Netero looks a lot older when he used up all his aura), and of course when you have people working on nijitsus that makes you live forever or bring back the dead, you'd naturally assume people would also do stuff that makes them look younger too.
You migh as well say anyone who wishes to live forever copied from Dragonball because clearly nobody else would ever have that as a primary motivation in fiction otherwise.
I have read plenty of manga, and I may not be caught up in Hunter X Hunter (following the new anime), but I did that on purpose because of Togashi's constant Hiatus'.
P.S. also I love Yu Yu Hakusho, but Hunter X Hunter has had more time to be crafted with care, while Naruto has been moving on schedule, I even thing Kishi should take a break to help craft his story, so It can be the best it can be.
But for you to try and tell the fans that they don't have their own taste, just think that their is a reason it sells as much as it does, even if they're are other people who are just caught up in the hype, there are fans who genuinely like the series, hell I still love it, the pain arc was amazing to me.
P.S. whats wrong with liking Gintama, I haven't read/watched it yet but I'm interested in it and I will check it out later. People have different tastes, and I respect your opinion, but Im kind of getting angry reading your comment.
I always find it rather ironic that HXH has been more or less toe to toe with Naruto in terms of volume sales but if you like Naruto you're just one of the unwashed masses while if you like HXH you're super special. I guess that might be true outside of Asia but in Asia, HXH is pretty much the masses, and if not for the ridiculous hiatus HXH should be ahead of Naruto in sales. The biggest Chinese site for manga is called GreedLand.
I don't even like Naruto, but HXH is not any less mainstream than Naruto in its country of origin. The 'XYZ stole from HXH' seems to assume HXH has a trademark on stuff like "Hero with a dark past" or "Magical energy that empowers you" or "Fights that require a brain" or "Charactere slightly more in depth than 1D" and similar stuff (and of course the real hardcore guys claimed Jojo's Adventures trademarked "Fights that require a brain"). Beyond the fact that you can't copyright say the elemental chakra system because the 5 elements existed way before Togashi was even born, Naruto uses the elemental system in such a haphazard way that it's basically meaningless (wind beats lighting, except when lightning beats wind). And if you say 'wel that's because Naruto stole the system poorly' I'd point out the Ant arc where the schools of aura become completely meaningless because every Royal Guard surpasses the highest level any human can achieve even in their weakest schools (Pitou's worst school is Reinforcement, but his normal physical strength is stronger than any human's normal physical strength).
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Tsunade's physique does not change as a result of her technique, while Biscuit's physique does. In the real world we have people trying all kinds of crazy stuff to look young and whatnot, but apparently if you tried that in a fictional universe where you can do nijitsus you obviously stole that from HXH. Biscuit's ability is basically just really advanced plastic surgery, while Tsunade's ability reverses aging, at least temporarily. If you want to say 'Naruto stole from HXH', Tsunade has more in common with Uber Gon as both of their ability temporarily affects aging itself to achieve the desired effect, while Biscuit's effect has absolutely no effect on aging. It's just a really awesome set of plastic surgery that can make you look as young as you want but her physical body is always at her real age, as shown when the guy with scissors analyzed Biscuit's hair.
Last edited by Phantron; December 25, 2012 at 01:08 AM.