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So its impossible to say No.16 is stronger than No.18.
However Mutsu/Mutsu likely make a far better combination than Taira/Hara.
So really in terms of Singles, you can't use the 1st Stringer ranking all the way.
Why are you telling me its canon? It's obviously canon its in the manga.
I don't know why you think that he won't be able to return BJK. He's kinda powerful, he has a lot of tech... He's even able to do regular Jack Knifes, it's not that crazy to think that he's able to return that shot. It's crazier to think that Oni will seal AK easily.
I remember momo using 2 hands to attmempt to return it. Is atobe 's physically stronger than momo,, who is known as a power player?
it seems almost unavoidable to counter unless you have a super strong atk technique. I'm also surprised momo executed it. I mean momo is less strong and has less technique than oni.
the anime not being canon, showed kintaro returning the Black JK with super strong special super mountain dessert atk.
Last edited by ashore; September 25, 2012 at 01:32 PM.
Only Middle School Power Players according to the Databooks are Tanishi Kei, Kawamura Takashi, Kabaji Munehiro and the Ishida bros.
Date Danji, Duke Watanabe and Ban Rikiya are the only known HS Power Players.
Power Players are players who base their whole tennis on Power shots.
Oni is more than simple Power. He hits 10 balls at once, and chased down a Drop Shot and hits shots with technique.
Oni isn't a Power Player.
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Also, Momoshiro was due an upgrade since Nationals Semifinals. He is of Seigaku and was one of Ryoma's rivals remember.
I wasn't really shocked when I saw him hit BJK.
I was more surprised that because of one backhand shot, Taira/Hara lost the match. They could have easily only hit the ball to Kenya.
They had signficantly more technique than both Momo and Kenya.
And that is higher ranked than Oni doesn't mean he's stronger. Even if he has more power, Oni is stronger physically and coul return perfectly Duke Homerun for example. He made fun of Yama Arashi and could have destroyed Gin also like Duke did. Oni's real power should be around No.2 level, Tanegashima, who I think is stronger than Irie, Tokugawa and Oni.
It isn't out there that Oni could be physically stronger, but at the same time, the possibility is still strongly there that Duke Watanabe is physically stronger.
We haven't seen how Duke trains yet, since Konomi has no limits on how people train in this series, Duke might also lift boulders.
I personally don't see Oni dominating Duke physically though. Whoever is the stronger one (I personally think its Duke), neither one I see dominating the other.
But I don't know where you're basing your idea on Oni and Tanegashima being better than Irie and Tokugawa yet.
So far Tokugawa, Oni and Irie have been portrayed on one tier level so far.
Secondly, we don't know if Oni could destroy Gin through sheer power.
We only know BJK, which if Ishida has 108th Hadoukyuu, should be able to return.
I also don't know why you think he could perfectly return Duke Homerun through physical power.
We don't know enough about the Top 8 or their abilities.
Last edited by Airgrimes; September 26, 2012 at 06:58 AM.
Oni Juujirou: 6 votes
Atobe Keigo: 3 votes
Winner: Oni Juujirou