Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 4

[wintercry]

Gintoki just looks so handsome

[kewl0210]

That's the picture from the cover of the last combined issue of Jump, in case anybody doesn't know. And yeah, it's pretty good. Glad to see it's getting a little more visibility from being that little picture before among a million heads.

[Samui]

Does anyone have info on the sales of manga and Naruto in particular in the US and France? I mean, just how much do they sell? Because I see that there were only just over 3000 copies sold for Naruto's last volumes through Amazon.

[k-dom]

That's the figure I have found for France in 2011 (all type of comic are included, mangas are in light blue)
ventes means sales and tirages means prints

I have found another interesting graph concerning Naruto. That's the sales of all Naruto volumes per year


sources:http://www.du9.org

[Samui]

That's the figure I have found for France in 2011 (all type of comic are included, mangas are in light blue)
ventes means sales and tirages means prints

I have found another interesting graph concerning Naruto. That's the sales of all Naruto volumes per year


sources:http://www.du9.org

"Tirage" is the amount of prints, and "ventes" is the amount of sales, right?

117,000 copies sold...?

I guess mangaka don't even get much money from overseas sales of volumes, games and merchandise, right?

And isn't France has the biggest manga industry together with US (US comes in second, I think) outside of Japan?

[Oberon]

Jump NEXT! Autumn Extras:

- Nisekoi Poster


- Hq!! interchangeable Jump Comic Cover

[Josl]

Does anyone have info on the sales of manga and Naruto in particular in the US and France? I mean, just how much do they sell? Because I see that there were only just over 3000 copies sold for Naruto's last volumes through Amazon.

For US American sales I googled a bit and found this site:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=36900
This guy analysis bookscan reports every year. It is an interesting read.
For those who don’t know. Bookscan is something like the American oricon but unlike oricon it doesn’t have access to all sales but only to a certain percentage. They claim it to be 75%, other sources claim it to be something like 65%.
On comicbookresources you will find the Top 750 lists from 2003-2011
Here is a direct link to 2011:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/im...11-TOP-750.xls

Some guy from Live Journal once took the 2011 list and added around 30% to the sales to make it 100% with only a plus/minus 5% difference.

1 NARUTO V50 40.984
2 POKEMON BLACK & WHITE V1 30.637
3 NARUTO V51 29.814
4 SAILOR MOON V1 29.264
5 BLACK BUTLER V1 25.500
6 BLUE EXORCIST V1 25.471
7 BLACK BUTLER V4 23.953
8 POKEMON BLACK & WHITE V2 23.358
9 MAXIMUM RIDE V1 MANGA 20.930
10 NARUTO V52 CELL SEVEN REUNION 20.359
11 DEATH NOTE BLACK E V1 19.937
12 CODENAME SAILOR V1 19.539
13 VAMPIRE KNIGHT V12 19.523
14 MAXIMUM RIDE V3 19.438
15 BLACK BUTLER V2 19.093
16 BLACK BIRD V 7 18.903
17 BLACK BUTLER VOL 5 18.745
18 SOUL EATER V1 18.489
19 BLACK BUTLER V3 18.291
20 MAXIMUM RIDE V2 MANGA 17.983
21 VAMPIRE KNIGHT V 11 17.694
22 HETALIA AXIS POWERS V2 17.352
23 SAILOR MOON V2 17.346
24 POKEMON ADV V1 2E 16.975
25 BLACK BIRD V1 16.835
26 POKEMON V1 16.702
27 POKEMON DIAMOND & PEARL ADV 16.687
28 POKEMON ADV PLATINUM V1 16.511
29 BLACK BIRD V8 16.346
30 BLACK BUTLER VOL 6 16.332
31 BLUE EXORCIST V2 16.302
32 NARUTO V49 16.199
33 FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST V 24 16.163
34 VAMPIRE KNIGHT V1 16.086
35 POKEMON ARCEUS & THE JEWEL OF 15.470
36 ROSARIO VAMPIRE SEASON II V 4 15.438
37 NARUTO V1 THE TESTS OF THE NIN 15.317
38 BLEACH V34 15.116
39 DEATH NOTE V1 14.559
40 POKEMON ADVENTURES V 12 14.404
41 NARUTO V 53 14.351
42 SOUL EATER V2 14.032
43 YU GI OH GX V6 14.011
44 BLEACH V1 13.884
45 BLACK BIRD V 9 13.852
46 PANDORA HEARTS V1 13.775
47 BLACK BIRD V2 13.584
48 POKEMON ADV V 2 13.420
49 FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST V1 13.364
50 FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST V25 13.299
51 SOUL EATER V5 13.216
52 BAKUMAN V1 12.835
53 POKEMON ADV V13 12.813
54 VAMPIRE KNIGHT V2 12.526
55 POKEMON BLACK & WHITE V3 12.471
56 BLUE EXORCIST V 3 12.462
57 POKEMON ADVENTURES V 11 12.435
58 BAKUMAN V 3 12.247
59 ROSARIO VAMPIRE SEASON II V 5 12.158
60 POKEMON V2 12.051
61 CODENAME SAILOR V 2 12.002
62 HETALIA AXIS POWERS V1 11.969
63 NARUTO V2 11.892
64 POKEMON RISE OF DARKRAI 11.865
65 SOUL EATER V3 11.782
66 VAMPIRE KNIGHT V 13 11.674
67 POKEMON ADV V14 11.622
68 K ON VOL 1 11.522
69 BLEACH V35 11.506
70 BLEACH V33 THE BAD JOKE 11.486
71 SOUL EATER V4 11.372
72 HIGHSCHOOL OF THE DEAD V2 11.313
73 BAKUMAN V 2 11.197
74 POKEMON ADVENTURES V 3 2ND E 11.179
75 VAMPIRE KNIGHT V10 11.159
76 POKEMON DIAMOND & PEARL ADV V7 11.145
77 DENGEKI DAISY V1 11.127
78 POKEMON ADV DIAMOND & PEARL 11.105
79 BLACK BIRD V6 11.016
80 ROSARIO VAMPIRE SEASON II V 3 10.953
81 ROSARIO VAMPIRE SEASON II V1 10.837
82 DEATH NOTE BLACK E V 2 10.833
83 PANDORA HEARTS V2 10.820
84 NEGIMA 29 MAGISTER NEGI MAGI 10.819
85 BLACK BIRD V5 10.732
86 PANDORA HEARTS V4 10.600
87 ONE PIECE V1 ROMANCE DAWN 10.583
88 POKEMON ADV V10 10.581
89 POKEMON ADV V8 10.555
90 OURAN HIGH SCHOOL HOST CLUB V 10.530
91 POKEMON DIAMOND & PEARL ADV 10.468
92 VAMPIRE KNIGHT V8 10.447
93 VAMPIRE KNIGHT V9 10.381
94 BLACK BUTLER V7 10.327
95 BLACK BIRD V3 10.173
96 BLACK BIRD V 10 10.127
97 DEATH NOTE V 2 9.983
98 MAXIMUM RIDE V5 MANGA 9.961
99 ROSARIO VAMPIRE SEASON II V2 9.880
100 POKEMON MYST DUNGEON 9.789

1 POKEMON 413.318
2 NARUTO 341.645
3 BLEACH 146.527
4 VAMPIRE KNIGHT 145.643
5 BLACK BIRD 138.364
6 BLACK BUTLER 132.240
7 ROSARIO VAMPIRE SEASON II 118.018
8 FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST 105.624
9 DEATH NOTE BLACK 103.341
10 SOUL EATER 83.038
11 SAILOR MOON 78.151
12 DRAGON BALL 70.568
13 MAXIMUM RIDE 68.311
14 BLUE EXORCIST 67.259
15 BAKUMAN 65.517
16 PANDORA HEARTS 59.443
17 ONE PIECE 51.721
18 YU GI OH 46.446
19 DANCE IN THE VAMPIRE BUND 43.191
20 DENGEKI DAISY 43.072
21 OURAN HIGH SCHOOL HOST CLUB 39.950
22 NEGIMA MAGISTER NEGI MAGI 33.093
23 D GRAY MAN 31.225
24 HETALIA AXIS POWERS 29.322
25 YOTSUBA& 27.482
26 SPICE & WOLF 26.462
27 HIGHSCHOOL OF THE DEAD 23.609
28 KARAKURIDOJI ULTIMO 22.922
29 K ON VOL 1 19.310
30 NURA RISE OF THE YOKAI CLAN 12.676
A few extra infos from the guy who posted this list:

I have included all Pokemon Manga under Pokemon. There are like 5-6 different ones.
I have also included databooks to the represented series and codename sailor to Sailor Moon.
The reason why some series are so high on the list even though they don’t have that many Manga in the Top 100 list is because of strong backdoor sales. Backdoor sales are sales of older Volumes.

Of course it is not 100% accurate but this is the closest there is to “official” sale numbers and the dimension should be correct.

[k-dom]

"Tirage" is the amount of prints, and "ventes" is the amount of sales, right?

117,000 copies sold...?

I guess mangaka don't even get much money from overseas sales of volumes, games and merchandise, right?

And isn't France has the biggest manga industry together with US (US comes in second, I think) outside of Japan?

Even if it's probably less than 1€ per book, that's still 300 000 sells a year (not counting older volumes). Of course it's low compare to Japan but a lot of people would like to earn that.
To tie with a blockbuster like XIII is quite an achievement. And yes I think France is the second market (we are also only 60 millions inhabitants) In term of diversity however I think there are more titles available than in US for sure.

[gananime]

Jump NEXT! Autumn Extras:

- Nisekoi Poster


- Hq!! interchangeable Jump Comic Cover

That Nisekoi poster looks awesome
Komi does have a pretty art style!

[vampire killer]

lol nura sold pretty good in usa. And toriko is nowere to be seen.

[BanishingSorrow]

Here's another poster of Nisekoi:

[Oberon]

827 ：Classical名無しさん：2012/10/10(水) 11:38:23.00 ID:fLdi81IL
46
斉木
ワンピ
トリコ
鰤 C
暗殺
ナルト
黒子
べるぜ
恋愛銀河区 C 47P
ハイキュー
クロガネ C
スケット
ニセコイ
伊達
クロス
銀魂
亀
家庭教師
めだか
恋染
タカマガ

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巻頭 ワンピ
C 黒子、べるぜ

828 ： ◆Kaze/dDnrcMd ：2012/10/10(水) 11:40:20.70 ID:fLdi81IL
>>827

Jump #46 (15/10) :
PSI Kusuo Saiki (Cover & Lead Color Page)
One Piece
Toriko
Bleach (Color Page)
Assassination Classroom
Naruto
Kuroko no Basket
Beelzebub
Renai Ginga Ku Ishikawasou (Color Page, One Shot, 47 pg.)
Hq!!
Kurogane (Color Page, Popularity Contest Results, First Year Anniversary)
Sket Dance
Nisekoi
Retsu! Date Senpai
Cross Manage
Gintama
Kochikame
Reborn!
Medaka Box
Koisome Momiji
Takamagahara
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

#47:
Cover & Lead CP: One Piece
CP: Kuroko no Basket, Beelzebub
OS: Jugon Kitan Miyaura-san

[Jaiden82]

Nice TOC. Nisekoi in 9th, hope this doesn't become a trend. I doubt it though.

[meeedoooz]

Assassination Classroom is third which is great, been a while since toriko last took a place in the top 3 so i might catch up again soon. kuroko is still doing great

i'm excited about Bleach's color page

Edit : wow gintama is low, why is that ?

[Doraku]

Edit : wow gintama is low, why is that ?

My guess? it's because the chapter which is being counted is another "filler" chapter again, which is not really dramatic or funny. It's still safe, I think, since It manages to escape from the bottom 5 position.


Furuichi arc surely gathers some positive votes for Beelzebub, I'm quite satisfied with this week TOC, though I don't want Nisekoi and Haikyuu get a lower rank than last week.