Theories about Mainland.

[IDC]

Many of the ideas in this thread are pretty much in line with my own idea about the Claymore world: the current continent is an analogue of Australia in size and role, with the mainland as the Old World equivalent, etc..

I also think that the science practiced by OrgFed side is Alchemy; many of their experiment and work have some parallel with the historical idea of alchemy:
- The MIB's apparent longevity and survival in spite of extensive disfigurements could be the result of the Elixir of Life or an All-curing Panacea(sp?), sought after by the historical alchemist.
- The indestructible metal that made up the sword could be the result of Metal Transmutation.
- The historical Alchemists are also well-known for their rigorous experiments and records.
- The experiment on creating Silver-Eye Warriors and Awakened Being could be inspire by the alchemist's quest to create artificial life with Homunculus.

And the historical alchemists sometime stumble upon some unexpected result when they was mixing up different ingredients, one of the most notable is GUNPOWDER.

Currently in-story there is nothing that suggest that gunpowder exist in this universe, but I would not be surprise in the least if the mainland army show up with muskets and cannons or maybe even something more exotic like Greek Fire.

That could even be how the OrgFed managed to hold off the DoD in the first place, before they have AB. However, gunpowder and gun are much easier to copy than DoD. Guns and cannons can be captured and reuse, gunpowder formula can be stolen by spy. When the DoDFed have access to the same weapons as the OrgFed, the OrgFed would be in a dire spot because they don't have DoD on their side and so they desperately need something to level the playing field. Enter the AB research.

[number12michael]

Many of the ideas in this thread are pretty much in line with my own idea about the Claymore world: the current continent is an analogue of Australia in size and role, with the mainland as the Old World equivalent, etc..

I also think that the science practiced by OrgFed side is Alchemy; many of their experiment and work have some parallel with the historical idea of alchemy:
- The MIB's apparent longevity and survival in spite of extensive disfigurements could be the result of the Elixir of Life or an All-curing Panacea(sp?), sought after by the historical alchemist.
- The indestructible metal that made up the sword could be the result of Metal Transmutation.
- The historical Alchemists are also well-known for their rigorous experiments and records.
- The experiment on creating Silver-Eye Warriors and Awakened Being could be inspire by the alchemist's quest to create artificial life with Homunculus.

And the historical alchemists sometime stumble upon some unexpected result when they was mixing up different ingredients, one of the most notable is GUNPOWDER.

Currently in-story there is nothing that suggest that gunpowder exist in this universe, but I would not be surprise in the least if the mainland army show up with muskets and cannons or maybe even something more exotic like Greek Fire.

That could even be how the OrgFed managed to hold off the DoD in the first place, before they have AB. However, gunpowder and gun are much easier to copy than DoD. Guns and cannons can be captured and reuse, gunpowder formula can be stolen by spy. When the DoDFed have access to the same weapons as the OrgFed, the OrgFed would be in a dire spot because they don't have DoD on their side and so they desperately need something to level the playing field. Enter the AB research.

Congratz on first post, Welcome

I agree with you on the fact that the Org could be using "alchemy"

But the last part i dont think they are using them to hold off the DoD and Asarakam, i think its more likely that they Org outnumber the otherside, i also think there war is similar to the "cold war" of our world....they are just fighting endless frivolous battles until one side can finally find a way to beat the other....without insuring there own destruction( Example if the DoD attacked the org straight out without a plan then the org would simply awaken all its warriors and the DoD would have hundreds of strong enemy's to face.

I also think there is a "mainland force" like Claymores who are really old/strong i would imagine they would have made atlest 1 warrior who was worth keeping around.......

Small question for anyone else...do the Asarakam and DoD emit yoki?

[Urfaust]

@IDC: did you mean that the Claymore Island is as big as Australia? The area is really large hehe, I don't think 47 Claymores could patrol it all, even if they were all super fast. But then again the Island is big enough to have a snowy northern part and a relatively tropical southern part

@number12michael: There's nothing explicit in the manga about the DoD's or Askaram emitting youki. It would be weird if they didn't though, unless youki is a result only obtained from fusing DoD and Askaram flesh into a parasite and having the parasite possess someone. Then the chemical nature of the interaction between parasite and human flesh becomes infected flesh that produces youki.

Maybe you could imply that Miria was lead to the DoD room by sensing the youki of the DoD, if it had any? I think someone argued for this point before

And generally on the subject of awakening, since Rimuto said that the awakening processes for Claymores and Askaram were different, I think what he means is that Askaram 'awaken' via a natural biological process whereas Claymore awakening is synthetic. Its possible that the Org wanted to simulate that natural process. In particular, what I think happens with a Claymore awakening is the compete synthesis of infected youma flesh and human flesh, speaking purely biologically. So after awakening there is no biological distinction between youma/human, like there is with a Claymore who is a biological human with their front held open and stuffed with youma flesh. The higher the degree of complete synthesis, the better awakened you become. 'Hate' probably has a role in the synthesis transformation.