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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Man now i understand Obito... His motivation is damn clear... Obito just got mad because Kakashi got to penetrate Rin first.... What is worse is that because this was Kakashi's first time he did not know how much force 1 needs to apply when feeling a girls boobs... Then look what happened.. His appetite left a hole in the poor girls heart...
Ok chapter for me, 8/10 or so.
The chapter was awful. If your going to show flashbacks atleast show something. 8 or 9 pages were wasted by the weak conversation that Obito and Zestu had while running through the forest. Can we just get on with it!
1. madara's words on one should lose for the other's win. the situation proves madara's words.
2. he will remember kakashi stabbing rin. obito will make fun of kakashi, and say he is indeed your student.
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kakashi and chidori: http://www.mangareader.net/93-35-16/...hapter-30.html
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looks like kakashi took his lesson
Last edited by gold349; October 06, 2012 at 03:24 PM.
Chapter was ok, but too streched as most chapters in the last weeks...
Don't know if it was mentioned before, but here it looks like Obito is about as old as when he attacked Konoha. My guess on the next week is, Obito returns to Madara after seeing Rin die (but without confronting Kakashi, otherwise he would have recognized him earlier). Madara tells him something like "Minato is the one responsible, 'cause he told Kakashi to do his mission together with Rin (we was both Hokage and Kakashi's [former] master, so it's quite safe to say Minato was the one giving orders). Madara also tells Obito, he can't beat him without the help of Bjuu, and then tells him how to controll the Kyuubi with te help of his Sharingan (it may be coincedence, that the timeline with Kushina's birth and Obitos wish for punishment on Minato fits, but it's Kishis Manga afterall, so everything is possible...). Shortly after this event, Obito went to Konoha and everything begun. Storyline closed.
the kryptic nonsense zetsu was saying 'a few douzen Mist nins', 'guiny pigs' it could be why the 2 didn't get to face each other also the truth oif Rins death as Tobi didn't accuse Kakashi outright for her death could be concluded within next chapter. There being jounin/AnBU level Mist nins numbering more than 24 kakashi's going to have to go on a rampage but if he is being controllled then the only person that can help is Obito still how ever this sitautaion gets resolved kakashi and Obito never meet...Obito could cover up his face and takes Rin body after.
I don't think Orochimaru looked down on Jiraiya then, as they were supposedly great friends before Orochimaru abandoned the village, and I don't see Jiraiya being as deluded as Naruto. At least I would seriously hope not.
seriously when will they excluding the host going to run out of chakra. to obtain MS obito must kill someone close right when he fought the 4th he can already ST jutsu then does that mean that when kakashi kill rin the MS got carried over to obito?
Poor rin. Maybe after that, obito lost his mind due to anger and zetsu took over to his body.
Jiraiya was just a lazy goofball whoo didn't take anything seriously except trying to cop-a-feel on Tsunade. He was definitely not stupid though.
Naruto was a goofball but more so just an idiot who had a monster inside him that saved his ass a bunch of times and gave him a bunch of "oh shit, i better get serious or i might actually die one of these times.", then he got serious. However, even though he's more badass than most characters now, he's still pretty dumb sometimes in battle, which annoys the hell out of the readers after all these years
If that wasn't enough Minato clearly states that the reason why Kakashi is such a stickler for the rule is strictly because of the incident of his father's death (inferring that he stuck to the rule to avoid his father's fate, either the shame of being ousted by your fellow peers or the guilt suicide). http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapte...amwork/page_19
Sasuke did not obtain the MS when he learned the truth. The first use of amaterasu by Sasuke is when Tobi tried to reveal himself to Sasuke via a jutsu implanted by Itachi (prior to telling him about the cover up of Itachi). In this sense, it can also be argued that Sasuke does not truly have his own MS since Madara specifically states that Itachi transferred all of his eye techniques to Sasuke before he died. Every MS have its own special ability that when combines together makes Susano. We don't see Tobi or Kakashi spamming amaterasu or tsukyumi, nor do we see Itachi/Sasuke/Madara ripping open a portal to another dimension, likewise no one with their own MS is able to use Shishui's ultimate brain washing technique without his eyes. This could just be a stupid plot hole (since Sasuke have EMS already), but my bet is on Kishi pissing fans off by either sacrificing Naruto or Sakura in the end to give Sasuke a new ability that will conveniently be super effective against Madara.
We need to also take into account that gaining the MS by killing your closest person is a legend that is originally perpetuated by Itachi (and presumably reinforced by the clan tablets). This legend that originates from Itachi is followed by the part that those with MS will eventually go blind unless they implant their brother's eyes. Why would part one of the legend be untrue, yet part two and three are true?
What would the motivation for Itachi be for lying to Sasuke? Because we all know Itachi was a liar, but all his lies have been for the sake of his little brother and his best interest. Itachi drove Sasuke down the path of darkness (hatred and vengeance) not only to be killed by Sasuke but also because he believed that was the fastest way for Sasuke to become powerful. He told Sasuke how to obtain MS, he wanted Sasuke to obtain MS, why lead him on a wild goose chase?
Lastly, Itachi says in chapter 225 that it was "thanks to Shisui" that he obtained the MS. The other Uchiha's confronted him because they believed that Shisui's suicide note was written by him and not Shisui (this scene would be absolute junk and pointless unless it serves to foreshadow something). This certainly is a strong indication that he killed Shisui, most likely willingly on Shisui's part since he knew Danzou would of done it eventually. If he didn't kill Shisui, then he certainly witness his death because in chapter 550 Itachi says that after telling him to hide his last eye "he died quietly".
I want to go out on limb and say that RIN was a clone. She attacked Kakashi and he killed the clone. Like Madara set it up so Obito would see it and he would want revenge. I'm guessing the body wasn't recovered. But Putting it in perspective it would be easy to trick him and make him hate Kakashi because of it and would want revenge.