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from the 'weak' conversations, we find the zetsu's are indeed keeping tabs on important players like the 'yellow flash', the zetsu indeed feed Madara upto date info, answers questions on how top secrets from a certain clans jutsu/techs to top secret security detail was revealed/compramised...this flashback is the making of 'Tobi' also confirms/conretes what zetsu role has been in all this.
I hope tobi is the spiral guy,who may merge with obito,to explain why he got called tobi
i still think madara's long nap has a lot to do with what's going on outside the hideout.
ex.he could be controlling yagura somehow...telepathically maybe...or even through the black rods like nagato.but,him sleeping for weeks/months on end is very odd...to the fact that obito's hair grew out(now that's one hell of a nap)...
Not to mention that some stuff can be explained with time-lines also by this 'spiral-guy' body put on Obito to make him look, uhm, I don't know, more adult-like? <like here I have in mind the stuff with attack on Konoha and skirmish with the Yellow Flash and any other instance when "Tobi"/Madara looked more like an adult compared to other characters:Originally Posted by gold349
we should keep in mind that even a sharingan user can be affected by others' sharingan illusions (such as danzo or itachi). of course madara is weak now and without his powerful eyes,but he has got a 3tomoes sharingan whereas obito possesses just a 2tomoes.
I mean, technically, everyone is rushing toward him right now, since Obito and Madara are the only threat left in this war.
She's not the fastest or the nearest though, so she shouldn't be the first to arrive there, but you never know.
Some people don't like Sakura, so maybe they can hope that she will arrive and that Obito will kill her to show his point!
next chapter we will discover why and what's happened. then it will end with obito coming back to madara,ready to hug the dark side!
-it would give her character depth and relevance ( finally! )
-it would resolve the whole pairing issue ( finally! )
-it would show Naruto succeding where Obito failed, having faith in the world
-it would give Naruto a way to TNJ Obito
Still I doubt it will happen, Sasuke already tried and failed, I just don't see Kishi doing this again.
Also the whole sacrificing/killing thing was already done with Hinata, it was meaningless since she could've brought back to life thanks to Gedo Rinne no Jutsu anyway, but still
Scary stuff seen through Obito/Kakashi's eye:
btw. @Bill the Cat, f**k, awesome idea - it would <or could> explain WHY Madara was so sure when he said to Obito: "You... will definitely return. And you will give me your gratitude when the time comes."
well , this is another 5-6 chapter useless flashback in middle of another useless fight !!!
Why both Nagato and Tobi turned to super strong and stupid character !?
killing so many for love and peace ..... I can understand why Oro want become immortal in that Godless world ( technically in Naruto manga , bad guys will find peace after death and so called good guys will get sealed in Shingami's belly and facing an eternal torture !! ) or Sasuke become mad on konoha and wanting his REVENGE but what about Nagato/Madara/Tobi !? simply they are some idiots with great power !!
Danzo was far better Villian than Madara/Nagato/Tobi but that simple main character don't have strong character to face with him in Konoha and without his stupid Rasengan , Clones and Talk no Jotusu and that why Kishi remove Danzo from story !!!
Last edited by shafagh; October 07, 2012 at 11:07 AM.
I guess it only shows how difference Naruto and Sasuke are.
There were so many people complaining how Sasuke was the protagonist for 100 chapters. But then when it shifts back to Naruto they complain about "talk no Jutsu", I guess they miss how Sasuke would brutally defeat his opponents and descend the road of evil?
Considering Obito saw Rin being stabbed through Kakashi's point of view, I'm inclined to believe Kakashi's the Zetsu. There's just no way for Obito to see from Kakashi's Sharingan.