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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    Kishi making the decision to draw the same Kakashi's mask is fishy, but putting it aside, that's quite realistic. It's not like the mask was in pretty bad shape in the first place, he was probably re-using it. Do you throw away your clothes whenever there is a tiny slit ? Even more practical clothes, in war time.
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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gats View Post
    Kishi making the decision to draw the same Kakashi's mask is fishy, but putting aside that it's quite realistic. It's not like the mask was in pretty bad shape in the first place, he was probably re-using it. Do you throw away your clothes whenever there is a tiny slit ? Even more practical clothes, in war time.
    i think that was deliberate. Cuz take a look at Kakashi's face when Obito says their teamwork will awaken full potential of the sharingan:

    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c604/13.html

    the scar is present but the torn mask is replaced with a new one in Obito's imagination. its totally weird that its torn in the last page, and in BOTH panels.

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by offensive bias View Post
    i think that was deliberate. Cuz take a look at Kakashi's face when Obito says their teamwork will awaken full potential of the sharingan:

    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c604/13.html

    the scar is present but the torn mask is replaced with a new one in Obito's imagination. its totally weird that its torn in the last page, and in BOTH panels.
    It's not the first time Kishi made such mistake, really. Besides it's in Obito's imagination, since he didn't meet Kakashi since his official death, I don't think this specific panel is relevant of anything.

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    I think Obito is probably under a Genjutsu, it's hinted when obito gets that weird vision. Also, it's really weird how Madra tells Obito that he'll be BACK. Even more, you can see the cloths and equipment obito uses in the future, like Madara panned everything out. We allready know Madra can see the future(for a short amount of time) maybe, that after he unlocked the rinnegan, he can see the future 20 years ahead or something.
    Thats my opnion really, replay if you have a different opinion

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gats View Post
    Kishi making the decision to draw the same Kakashi's mask is fishy, but putting aside that it's quite realistic. It's not like the mask was in pretty bad shape in the first place, he was probably re-using it. Do you throw away your clothes whenever there is a tiny slit ? Even more practical clothes, in war time.
    The war is still ongoing, being out on the battlefield, being away from Konoha...weapons/tools for fighting and medical equipment would be a must, spare uniform/clothing would be the last thing, IMO nothing fishy in Kakashi with the same face mask.

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaplop View Post
    I don't think Jiraiya was dumb/stupid like Naruto as much as he was dumb/goofy like Naruto.
    Jiraiya was just a lazy goofball whoo didn't take anything seriously except trying to cop-a-feel on Tsunade. He was definitely not stupid though.
    Naruto was a goofball but more so just an idiot who had a monster inside him that saved his ass a bunch of times and gave him a bunch of "oh shit, i better get serious or i might actually die one of these times.", then he got serious. However, even though he's more badass than most characters now, he's still pretty dumb sometimes in battle, which annoys the hell out of the readers after all these years
    More like goofy and perverted. I can't actually recall Jiraiya being shown making a "dumb" mistake. Naruto on the other hand tends to make them far more then he should.

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    I HIGHLY doubt Kishi made a mistake in the last panels regarding Kakashi's torn mask. To remember to put in such a small neat detail is not a coincidence or mistake, and because it's so small yet so relevant it's very suspicious.

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    awesome cliffhanger. I can't wait till the next chapter.
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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    I believe that the entire time that Obito spent together with Madara and the Zetsu clones, was outside normal time. The statement that Madara made: "Between this and the other world", is to me the solution that will be made clear in one or two chapters.

    As Obito trains and grows older, perhaps spending six months up to a year in recovery, estimate that time to have been no more than two or three days in real time.

    This would explain gaining the skills (plus size and guts) to go toe to toe with Minato.

    I predict next chapter will reveal Rin to be a Kabuto kinda spy(that failed), but this will not be revealed to Obito due to him being talked by Zetsu into returning to the Cavern of Madara.
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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    I would say this is all a set up by Madara, at this time he was probably controling the mist village with a zetsu clone of himself (which is who Kisame met) when we see Madara linked to the mazou I'm guessing it will be to keep him alive no doubt, but also keep him in contact with all of the zetsu clones which are placed about (which were mentioned in the chapter) being who he is and also having such an elaborate plan to carry out he would want to keep tabs on current events and to gain influence where possible.

    When he deemed Obito had got to the point he was of proper use he could just put in a plan to use a zetsu clone of Rin, which Kakashi knows is an enemy and not the real Rin and time it so Obito arrives on the scene at just the right time to see "Rin" being killed.

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    More like goofy and perverted. I can't actually recall Jiraiya being shown making a "dumb" mistake. Naruto on the other hand tends to make them far more then he should.
    I disagree. In a fight Naruto doesn't make those mistakes. Its possible because you watch the anime? That's one of the reasons I hate it so much, the fillers make him look a lot stupider than he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by llamapie View Post
    I disagree. In a fight Naruto doesn't make those mistakes. Its possible because you watch the anime? That's one of the reasons I hate it so much, the fillers make him look a lot stupider than he is.
    The fight against Edo Nagato and the fight against the Edo Jinchuuriki were the most recent fights where Naruto was making needless mistakes. Now I'm not saying Naruto can't make a mistake, but I at least expect the mistakes to be something that was unavoidable due to lack of knowledge or something.

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    I posted this in the previous chapter's discussion thread but it's relevant ( even more so with the current chapter, I think)

    Quote Originally Posted by silver_soul View Post

    In the next chapter after seeing the circumstances of Rin's death I hope it's not a case of Obito misunderstanding the situation and basing his 'hate' on something he didn't understand at the time.

    Instead I hope we see something Kakashi did (or did not do) that may be have been a morally ambiguous decision, adding another layer to Kak's character/past.

    Both scenario's leave the possibility of Obito being defeated by talk-no-jutse but the latter would be cooler, imo.
    Kakashi's character could just given more depth with the next chapter.

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    More like goofy and perverted. I can't actually recall Jiraiya being shown making a "dumb" mistake. Naruto on the other hand tends to make them far more then he should.

    Spoiler: lido209boi;3064990 show
    I wasn't actually calling Jiraiya dumb.
    I only used the word bc thats what other people used.
    Thats why i said dumb/goofy, and Naruto dumb/stupid.
    I was calling Jiraiya goofy and Naruto stupid.
    And yea i added the pervert part when i mentioned him trying to touch Tsunade.

    Jiraiya is definitely not stupid, and doesnt seem like he ever was, except when it came to the ladies maybe.

    ---------- Post added at 03:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:29 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoinshi View Post
    I believe that the entire time that Obito spent together with Madara and the Zetsu clones, was outside normal time. The statement that Madara made: "Between this and the other world", is to me the solution that will be made clear in one or two chapters.

    As Obito trains and grows older, perhaps spending six months up to a year in recovery, estimate that time to have been no more than two or three days in real time.

    This would explain gaining the skills (plus size and guts) to go toe to toe with Minato.

    I predict next chapter will reveal Rin to be a Kabuto kinda spy(that failed), but this will not be revealed to Obito due to him being talked by Zetsu into returning to the Cavern of Madara.
    How could Rin be a spy and Minato not know about it...cmon...
    And how can Madara's lair be time non-existent?
    You made the claim that these are possible theories but didnt describe how either one could possibly be true....

    Backup your opinions.

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    Re: Naruto 604 Discussion / 605 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by silver_soul
    In the next chapter after seeing the circumstances of Rin's death I hope it's not a case of Obito misunderstanding the situation and basing his 'hate' on something he didn't understand at the time.
    Thats the most likely scanario methinks And even after the flashbacks end and Kakashi will tell Obito that it was sth totally different etc. Obito will still say that Rin is dead and it doesn't matter anymore etc. <x2>, and the fight will go on xD
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