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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Here's the thing. It's the hidden Mist and Zetsu was cryptic about 'guinea pigs'. Also, I can't dismiss that it wasn't the real Kakashi because I think it was a real tear that he was shedding in this. Which makes me think, the real Kakashi felt emotion because it was one of his comrades. But what we also know is that Rin has been captured before, so who's to say she wouldn't be captured again? And... we know that Yagura was being controlled when he was the Mizukage. Maybe Rin was the guinea pig.
Yeah, I know it's a stretch but technically, was this supposed to be before Yagura was being controlled by Obito/Madara or whoever it was? What if somehow there's a link... maybe Rin was being controlled and the only way to free her was to 'kill' her? Or something like this. I know, all theory. But maybe the jutsu was later perfected. Maybe Kakashi was trying to protect and go after to rescue Rin, but this is what happened? A lot of mayb'es. lol
Last edited by jalix; October 09, 2012 at 03:35 PM.
It was dispelled in Chapter 472
The switch had already happened. And in 473, the pencil was thrown, cutting the clone and making him bleed.
after reading the latest chapters it's very funny reading this part again: http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/582/5 kabuto was really humiliated by kishi in the end,notwithstanding what he'd been doing...
Ok Guys, I normally dont post on boards ... in fact i became a member to this forum after a long time of being a passive reader.
One thing about Naruto is sometimes it is more simple than we think, for example in case of Itachi, you could always see that there is something wrong with him being on the bad side (calling people with -san prefix, being humble, avoiding ).
I assume, Kakashi was in fact in love with Rin (we can see later on that he is still single, he has said everyone he loved has died (in japan u dont simply love someone), he is reading ero-senin books which is about a guy who wants to persuade a girl ) .
My guess is Kakashi loved rin but was too cool to admit, and after that incident with obito ... rin started to miss obito and blaming kakashi .... this might give us a clue about why rin was killed ....
also i find this page abit fishy
Why kakashi is stalking on obito ?!! (while obito is fantasizing about rin)
p.s: I believe the kakashi which killed rin, is the real and only kakashi we know and he didnt do it under genjutsu ... It might also be the reason why he got the mangekyo sharingan .... why did he get it years later ?! well, probably you need both eyes to be mangekyo sharingan ... meaning obito fulfilled his mangekyo requirment later than kakashi .....
now plz hammer this post
Some people say that kakashi was asked by rin to kill her, I dont see that happening because kakashi was changed after the world war and he became like his father and still he continues his principle ... protect the team ....
Also i dont think rin is a zetsu clone, knowing kakashi , he would notice something about zetsu and upon the next encounter he will give some information to his teammates about zetsu ... which we know, he didnt ... (unless he had something to hide xD )
Last edited by TobiHoKage; October 09, 2012 at 06:26 PM.
Worst case scenario, it's going to be an "Itachi Cliffhanger" (named after that cliffhanger which Itachi appeared during the battle between Sasuke and Danzo, only for us to find out the next week that it was just a weak genjutsu).
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But I'm kind of wondering if kakashi had his mangekyou sharingan all along since his childhood (assuming he devloped 3rd tomoe then as well), but just didn't use it because of chakra constraints. He might have activated it once and just decided to never use it again since it would probably would or almost kill(ed) him.
In part one he full well knew what the mangekyou sharingan was, and I don't picture kakashi as a person who wouldn't push his capabilities to the limit. I know he said he developed a jutsu during the time skip, but I'm more inclined to think he worked on his chakra reserve.
Last edited by scandalous'; October 09, 2012 at 08:49 PM.
I think it's possible the Zetsu clones can only use jutsu if they're created with the chakra capacity to do so. The Kisame Zetsu was on a special mission to fool A and Bee, so he probably wasn't lying when he started to use that suiton jutsu before being decapitated. The clone army (ugh) was probably made with the bare minimum chakra requirements to make them work right (like a normal person), considering Tobi was so concerned about using the Mazou's chakra. Kabuto's modifications probably only provided higher stamina, and not necessarily the chakra capacity required to use jutsu.
TLDR; it's still entirely plausible that this Kakashi and Rin are both Zetsu. Though knowing Kishi, he'll probably commence with the retcons of Kakashi's past, or Obito will just kind of... run away. Or conveniently be whisked away back to the hideout by Spiral Zetsu.