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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Coby Hatchan Ben Beckman Bepo
Last edited by Akainu; October 02, 2012 at 04:08 PM.
Ben & Bepo are both too strong to loose here.
I'm pretty sure Coby should be able to win against Hatchan with his training under Garp, so bye Hatchan !
I don't think Hachi would win against Coby, who knows Haki and CP9 moves and has been training under Garp.
Hatchan is out, coby mastered the Soru and have the haki.
Coby is out.
He is too weak. He is only Sergant Magor before timeskip and couldn't do a shit in the War, while Hachi is an experienced fighter and is a second strongest swordsman on the Fishman Island. Coby's only fit is Soru. He doesn't know how to use Haki. He only awakend it before timeskip, so according the abilities he showed on screen he will deffinetly loose to Hachi.
I'd say hatchan is weaker than bebo,whose captain is worthy of 200 M.
Hachi might be weaker than Bepo or might not be, but the thing is that going by manga it should be obvious that the weakest one here is Coby as he is just way weaker than others physically and didn't show any attacking technique to be able to inflict any sufficient damage to any of his opponents in this group, when I do believe that he might be one-shotted by any of his opponents here. Also, his Soru is quite immature. He was caught quite easily by Luffy in both fights, when he tried to use it against him and Luffy was just toying with him.
Yeah, Hachi's really weak. Coby was considered good enough to fight at Marineford, so I wouldn't consider him that weak anymore. Plus he developed the observation haki the last time we saw him. I think he could easily handle Hachi as he is now.
Zoro even then was quite well-known bounty hunter, so even if he was injured he was quite a strong opponent even for Grand Line standards... While Coby before timeskip was just a Sergant Major and was quite useless as his only move was Soru... So, no way he can beat Hachi like this. It's an obvious thing.
Until he shows something on screen he will still be considered weak.
hachi is weak after the 2 years, whereas coby can be expected to have gotten stronger training under garp so yeah hachi is out
We should count characters not as how they "are expected to grow during 2 years", but how they were shown in the manga last. And Coby last time was just a useless guy who was still one-shotted with a weak Soru and without any attacking move.
You should understand why Hachi was shot by Tenryubito.
It was clearly stated that it was not because he couldn't slice him or punch him or evade it, but because if he did anything to Tenryubito or anyone else did, then an Admiral will come and pulverise everyone! That was the point to show how influencial are Tenryubito and not how weak other characters are.
Luffy was the only one who didn't care about such stuf and punched Tenryubito, when Hachi didn't want his friends to get in trouble because of him, even though he wanted to save Camie.