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Thread: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

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    [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji



    Singles 1Tezuka KunimitsuFuji Shuusuke
    Title - Prodigy
    SchoolSeishun Gakuen 3rd YearSeishun Gakuen 3rd Year
    Height179 cm167 cm
    Weight58 kg53 kg
    Dominant HandLeftRight
    PlaystyleAll RounderTechnical Counter Puncher
    TechniquesZero Shiki Drop Shot
    Tezuka Zone
    Hyakuren Jitoku no Kiwami
    Saiki Kanpatsu no Kiwami
    Zero Shiki Serve
    Tezuka Phantom
    Houou Gaeshi
    Kirin Otoshi
    Hakuryuu
    Kagero Zutsumi
    Hecatoncheires no Monban
    Hoshi Hanabi
    Closed Eyes

    Serve order: Tezuka -> Fuji


    This round ends on Sunday, September 30th 8 PM GMT.


    Cast your vote and discuss (logically) why you voted for who you voted for. Have fun, but keep it clean!

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    ZSS takes each and every game it has.
    So that's already 3-0.
    Houou Gaeshi caught as Tezuka can anticipate drops and catch them as shown by Tezuka!Niou. He is a master of drop shots after all.
    Kirin Otoshi can't work since he can put TZ spin on his smashes. As shown by Tezuka!Niou.
    Hakuryuu can be caught before rising. Fourth Counter can be read by Top Tier players and 5th Counter can be cleanly defeated. All as shown by Tezuka!Niou.

    SKnK and HJnK are ineffective when Fuji uses CE. He can hit weaker but well placed shots as they come to him so he can't be predicted, then he takes the points with Cord Ball.
    So neither lose their serve. Until the other gives in.
    Tell me what I've missed so far.
    (Disappearing Serve can be returned through either HJnK or Tezuka can return it easily.Eespecially since he has seen it so many times as Fuji's close friend).

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    Technically we're talking about the Tezuka after the team shuffle here, so he wouldn't kill his arm for the heck of it.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    This should be exactly like the Tezuka vs Fuji match in SPOT. I don't care about the "I won't lose to the same opponent twice", Tezuka destroys Fuji and leaves him crying in the floor.
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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    Technically we're talking about the Tezuka after the team shuffle here, so he wouldn't kill his arm for the heck of it.
    And this is without TMnK right?
    Tezuka would kill his arm for the heck of it. No?
    He was just awesome like that. He didn't know how to give in.

    I don't know... During the match against Yamato... Wasn't he achieving Hyakku Ren in different parts of his body? I couldn't tell the way it was drawn but that's what I thought.

    ---------- Post added at 03:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:38 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    This should be exactly like the Tezuka vs Fuji match in SPOT. I don't care about the "I won't lose to the same opponent twice", Tezuka destroys Fuji and leaves him crying in the floor.
    Not really. Tezuka w/out TMnK is within Nationals!Fuji's reach. It won't be an ass-kicking.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    And this is without TMnK right?
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Tezuka would kill his arm for the heck of it. No?
    He was just awesome like that. He didn't know how to give in.
    From what we've seen, he stopped using Phantom after Yamato told him to play for his own sake. It's open for interpretation how much he uses it from now on I suppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    I don't know... During the match against Yamato... Wasn't he achieving Hyakku Ren in different parts of his body? I couldn't tell the way it was drawn but that's what I thought.
    It's kinda hard to say. I thought that at first too, but lately I've been thinking that he didn't and just saw through GUYU at the end. Really not sure though.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    If Tezuka didn't get TmnK from Yamato, he would just get it from Fuji. Also, Fuji has never lost to Tezuka, so the whole "never lose twice" thing doesn't even apply. Meaning, Tezuka wins no matter what. The only time they played was when Tezuka was injured, so that was a throw away match that even Fuji wasn't satisfied with. Fuji has nothing against Tezuka.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    As much of a fuji fan as I am, I hate to admit that tezuka would beat him here. I think it would be a close match, maybe play out similar to how the anime version of their match went, but overall tezuka has shown that he is a step above fuji.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    can we assume he make his hyakuren aura go to any part of his body like echizen? but no TnK

    the players saw he had an aura all over his body, but it wasn't TnK. but it was never stated it was the hyaku ren.

    ---------- Post added at 09:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:40 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    If Tezuka didn't get TmnK from Yamato, he would just get it from Fuji. Also, Fuji has never lost to Tezuka, so the whole "never lose twice" thing doesn't even apply. Meaning, Tezuka wins no matter what. The only time they played was when Tezuka was injured, so that was a throw away match that even Fuji wasn't satisfied with. Fuji has nothing against Tezuka.
    i think why he got it from yamato is because he was free from the pressure of being pillar, and played for another cause and not for his own happiness. So i personally think he wouldnt have got it from fuji.

    ---------- Post added September 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM ---------- Previous post was September 27, 2012 at 09:43 PM ----------

    can someone explain how fuji's final counter works? this will be required for me to determine this match.
    my understanding is fuji hits the on the opponents side of the court, close the net, where it suddenly bounces straight up incredibly fast like rebounding from a smash then over into the stands?

    its hard to tell from the anime and manga.
    Last edited by ashore; September 27, 2012 at 11:42 PM.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    If Tezuka didn't get TmnK from Yamato, he would just get it from Fuji.
    TnK is still banned.

    Quote Originally Posted by ashore View Post
    can we assume he make his hyakuren aura go to any part of his body like echizen? but no TnK

    the players saw he had an aura all over his body, but it wasn't TnK. but it was never stated it was the hyaku ren.
    Tezuka's Hyakuren does cover all of his body, it's just highly concentrated in his left arm. You can see it here decently well.

    I personally think that he can't shift it around, but I can't say for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by ashore View Post
    can someone explain how fuji's final counter works? this will be required for me to determine this match.
    my understanding is fuji hits the on the opponents side of the court, close the net, where it suddenly bounces straight up incredibly fast like rebounding from a smash then over into the stands?

    its hard to tell from the anime and manga.
    First of all, a cord ball is needed to satisfy the conditions. Then Fuji launches the ball straight up and it will crash down somewhere on the opponent's side of the court, then bounce into the stands. Compare it to the Meteor Drive Niou/Akaya used in Inui's dream.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    Anyone think Fourth Counter > Zero Shiki Serve?

    If Fuji can catch the serve on the frame, he could easily carry the ball upwards and neutralise the heavy backspin.
    "Sorry, but I never lose to the same opponent twice." - Fuji

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuji Shusuke View Post
    Anyone think Fourth Counter > Zero Shiki Serve?

    If Fuji can catch the serve on the frame, he could easily carry the ball upwards and neutralise the heavy backspin.
    Considering the stance Fuji required, I'm not too sure this would work.

    ---------- Post added at 02:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:25 AM ----------

    This won't be an ass-kicking though.
    It all depends on Tezuka's ZSS.
    Tezuka after the Team Shuffle however I believe can have HJnK beyond his left arm I thought.
    7-6 Tezuka.

    Since Fuji will push him all the way.
    CE + Cord Ball breaks HJnK, SKnK, TZ, and TP. Fuji is awesome.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    As Saiki won't work neither Hyakuren to CE, it's a really hard choice, but Tezuka should still win. Fuji's counters won't work on him, with Hyakuren he blews Fuji away, only Fuji has Hoshi Hanabi, CE won't work on Tezuka due to TPhantom, Tezuka will win this no matter what, unless Fuji gets an incredible new counter. 6-4 Or 7-6 (if Tenimuhou was not banned, Tezuka 6-0). Fuji is helpless against Tezuka, cE win't save him, he would have a hard time with ZSServe, and Tezuka Phantom also, like Hyakuren. He needs a big ass upgrade to have a chance and win.

    Since when CE beats Zone? CE and cord balls do but CE won't break Zone or Phantom (without cord balls)

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    Even though Fuji will lose, I'll vote for him anyway XD

    ---------- Post added at 10:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:40 PM ----------

    From a previous discussion, people mentioned that players will be able to return their own techniques. So if you assume Fuji could return Houou Gaeshi, since the principle is similar, can you assume he could return ZSS?
    "Sorry, but I never lose to the same opponent twice." - Fuji

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 1 vs Team 12 Singles 1] Tezuka vs Fuji

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    TnK is still banned.
    This doesn't even make sense. How can you ban an actual technique the character uses? That's like saying "Oh yeah, Yukimura isn't allowed to use Yips even though he would obviously use it in a real match." Tezuka would (and has) use TnK against Fuji, those are just the facts. Banning it is just an unrealistic gimp.

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