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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
Pretty sure Sasuke would get hit like that too, and he wouldn't be an Edo Tensei to boot. I don't really care about Raikage beating A since he's a taijutsu only user and Sasuke has his Susano'o. I don't think it would be a stretch to say that Madara's susano'o is probably ten times more durable than Sasuke's, and A cracked his first one with a simple body slam using gravity and a bit of his own strength.
That's how Sasuke loses to Onoki, simple as that. Sasuke had his chakras restored by Zetsu he would've used Amaterasu in that situation if he could have. IMHO sasuke shouldn't have prior knowledge on the Kages, because that is the deciding factor in most of these matches. That Jinton happened right then and there and Sasuke stood there and took it like a champ.
I'm pretty sure that was fast as well, seeing as he got up and literally spun around. Even if Sasuke wanted to try and avoid his Jinton I'm sure he couldn't avoid this all too well. Onoki's the freaking Tsuchikage how dare you guys bring up the roof caving in on his head, the man can lighten the weight of rocks and summon massive golems to defend himself and the other kages!
Unless Sasuke constantly uses lightning Gaara still has options. Dense sand can withstand chidori, and Sasuke can't get to Gaara if he has to get through a very thick layer of sand. Hell, Sasuke can't use lightning to avoid being hit by Gaara's sand, he'd have to dodge it (which he should be able to do). Not to mention, Gaara can rip Sasuke out of Susano'o.
Dunno, Raikage's not an idiot either.
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Right back at you: Let's asume the hands for Jinton: Genkai Hakuri no Jutsu are already in formation for jutsu release.
Now unless you can prove some sort of argument that Onoki won't use those techniques or Sasuke's attacks are faster, then Sasuke has no means to kill Onoki before being killed himself.
This is the man who admitted to have used Akatsuki for warship, why he be so idiotic to not use a trap this time, when he clearly knows that Sasuke will come to him. He should be capable of using some kind of jutsu to create different kinds of traps to pull him out. Even if earth is weak to lightning, he is capableo fire jutsu too, as well as the wind[>lightning]. Let's not make the characters dumber than Kishimoto makes them out to be to let his heroes shine.
I find it extremely funny that people think MS Sasuke can simply one shot a Kage then proceed to the next and one shot like he's walking over genin rank. That's one of the most messed up shit I've ever heard on Naruto forums.
Sasuke is not gonna Raikage for obvious reasons
Sasuke cannot even one shot Tsunade because of High speed reg & If he dares shunshin to her up close, he is asking for his death.
Sasuke cannot one shot Onoki either. He's a kekkei genkai master of 3 elements(fire, earth & air) who as enough speed at his age to play around with deidara(someone who Sasuke could one shot)
Sasuke isn't gonna one shot Mei nor Garra either.
I want to ask a question... Why do people say Sasuke shunshin all that?
Oonoki is troublesome I agree, and his Jinton is capable of " destroying " Susanoo, but I can't see him escaping from Amaterasu since he doesn't have Raikage's speed and reflexes
Mei didn't show anything good too, Amaterasu and she's done
Gaara can use Sands as much as he wants, can't do shit to his Susanoo, and I can already imagine how he'd pierce his sand defenses with the Amaterasu sword
As for Raikage, he didn't show anything that could suggest piercing Susanoo, his speed is troublesome, but he lacks the strength to beat Sasuke
Also comparing between CS2 Sasuke with normal Sharingan and EMS Sasuke is just wrong, it's like comparing an ant with an elephant, that's how terrifying an EMS is
The second factor will not occur to ninjutsu masters and especially fuuinjustu masters.
Tsunade healing justu does not require her to use any hand seals and it's ability makes it so that she CANNOT died in battle unless she rans out of chakra.
It's high speed instant regeneration.
To take her out Sasuke will have to use other tactics to slow her down because "one-shot" is out of the question.
Where did I compare CS2 Sasuke to MS Sasuke?
Jiraiya sealed it ? Yes, but how much time did it take him to do it, and what he sealed were basically leftovers of Amaterasu... Or are you saying that it can seal Amaterasu while Sasuke is launching it right ?
Her regeneration jutsu is utterly useless, why ? Amaterasu's flame doesn't stop for seven days and seven nights, are you suggesting that Tsunade can keep her technique for that long ? Tsunade doesn't have : Raikage's speed and reflexes, Nagato's Shinra Tensei.
Tsunade is just fodder for Sasuke, he'd one shot her with EASE, he wouldn't even need to bother with her
You said Sasuke could not OS Deidara, that was Sasuke without EMS, with EMS, he's fucked easily...
EMS is haxxed, if Sasuke fights with the Kage one at a time, he'd win, but him vs the 5 Kages nope obviously
Jiraiyas sealing technique is useless during a fight. The advantages of Jiraiya back then were:
- Jiraiya was not hit, lol. I would like to see someone using this sealing technique while his head is on fire...
- There was no enemy/fight. No one attacking Jiraiya, while he sets up the sealing technique, which requires quite some time.
Funny how people seem to have forgotten that Sasuke also has powerful genjutsus under his command too, meaning simply locking eyes with him can mean the end of the line.
The Kages knowing about Susanoo means little in this situation. Nothing forbids anything, but stop trying to make it as if they normally do so. And by the same reasoning, Sasuke can use his chakra sight to see any traps beforehand and attack before he even got into the room. Such reasoning only complicates the situation. And again, you speak as if there will be much time to prepare. Also, Onoki's techniques are costly. He can't charge one without wasting a bunch of chakra. And as mentioned above, a single genjutsu would paralyze Onoki and stop him from being able to launch any technique.
The proof is the fact that due to the Sharingan, Sasuke will have forewarning and know what's up before Onoki, giving him the ability to react before Onoki does. Not to mention that while Onoki has to wait til Sasuke shows himself, Sasuke can attack before he becomes visible to Onoki, due to chakra sight. Sasuke can enter the rooms from at least any three sides, and Onoki would have no way to know where exactly Sasuke will come in from.
Idiotic? I must have missed the part in the series where Onoki was shown preparing beforehand for say the fight with his mentor or the other Edo summons. He's never shown such a thing, so why should I presume that he'll do so here. I'm not making him any dumber or such then we've seen him be. At least Sasuke has a history of using his MS techniques straight off the bat, not to mention genjutsu. The argument that he "must have some kind of technique" doesn't work. Unless you can specifically say what he could attempt, you're just making things up. I could just as easily presume that after dealing with Ee, Sasuke hangs back in that room and using his Enton ability to send a wave of Amaterasu flames through to the other rooms to weaken the other Kages before he confronts them.
Also, Sasuke has shunshin multiple times. He's noted for his speed.
Her reg isn't useless because she's gonna seal amaterasu one way or the other.
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" One way or the other "Quote:
Pretty much sums your argument... You have no argument, no proofs, you assume that Tsunade is gonna bring a sealing jutsu out of her ass to seal Amaterasu
Sasuke used shunshin(high speed movement) against Deidara but he couldn't hit While Naruto did the samething to Deidara and gave him a punch to the face.
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And besides Amatersu has a flaw. It is only instant in very short range & it requires the user to focus on the target. Hard to focus on a moving target.
Blame Kishi for not showing us Tsunade using some sealing techniques, or not showing us what is Minato's affinity etc etc