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Thread: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

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    [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser



    Doubles 1Taira Yoshiyuki
    Momoshiro Takeshi
    Yagyuu Hiroshi
    Liliadent Krauser
    TitleSmiling Sharpshooter
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    Gentleman
    Iceman
    SchoolHigh School 2nd Year
    Seishun Gakuen 2nd Year
    Rikkai Dai Fuzoku 3rd Year
    Nagoya Seitoku 1st Year
    Height???
    170 cm
    177 cm
    186 cm
    Weight???
    58 kg
    64 kg
    73 kg
    Dominant HandLeft
    Right
    Right
    Right
    PlaystyleAggressive Baseliner
    Aggressive Baseliner
    Serve and Volley
    Aggressive Baseliner
    TechniquesBakyuun
    Dunk Smash
    Black Jack Knife
    Laser Beam
    Curved Laser
    Hopping Ball
    Southern Cross

    Serve order: Yagyuu -> Momoshiro -> Krauser -> Taira


    This round ends on Wednesday, October 3rd 8 PM GMT.


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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Taira has Bakyuun, I don't see Yagyuu returning it, Krauser has a 5 in power. Momo has BJK, Yagyuu and Krauser won't return it. Yagyuu's curve laser might be a problem for Momo/Taira, but eventually they should return it, but Krauser has insane power and Cruficixion, however, he was owned by Nakagauchi, and Nakagauchi was owned by Date. Taira is 1st court level, Nakagauchi won't defeat Taira, as 3rd court level players got stomped. Momo could break Yagyuu's wrists, but the problem is if they can hold their ground against Krauser shots and Yagyuu's curved laser, that I think they can return. Also, if Nakagauchi dodged it, I think Taira should be able to. My vote goes to Taira/Momo 7-6 or 6-4

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Black Jack Knife just seems to be a way stronger move than anything the other 3 characters have so Taira/Momoshiro wins for just having a G10 level move.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Krauser lost to 3rd court who got stomp by 1st stringer. This leaves this match up to Yagyuu, and I don't see Yagyuu returning both BJK and Bakyuun.
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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    BJK even stomps Taira and Taira's shown abilities above both Yagyuu and Krauser. Sure, Momo's not the most mobile character around, but BJK is just beastly. Taira/Momo win 6-0 if the match is completed, but I see this as a match where Momo damages someone's wrists with BJK/hurts them (even though he doesn't have the same level of power as Oni, he should be able to do a little bit) and Krauser runs out of steam. Both BJK and Bakyuun break the strings of rackets, and neither of Yagyuu/Krauser can do anything about that.

    I like Yagyuu, but Laser and Curved Laser aren't enough to get anything done here.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Then total domination of Taira/Momo as BJK and Bakyuun are too much for Krauser and Yagyuu. Both Momo and Taira have more stamina than Yagyuu/Krauser and Momo more power as BjK is going to kill Krauser and Yagyuu. Krauser won't hit neither Taira or Momo with Hb, Nakagauchi perfectly dodged it and Taira is 1st string level who would have probably stomped Nakagauchi and Momo defeated Taira, so Krauser is useless here. Curved laser won't work that much, maybe he can take at least one game but BJK will damage their wrists. I change the result, Momo/Taira win 6-1.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    Then total domination of Taira/Momo as BJK and Bakyuun are too much for Krauser and Yagyuu. Both Momo and Taira have more stamina than Yagyuu/Krauser and Momo more power as BjK is going to kill Krauser and Yagyuu.
    Okay, Momoshiro's stamina has been portrayed to be near Kaidoh's.
    But Taira? Didn't seem like the endurance man. No proof Taira has more stamina than Yagyuu, although we know Krauser has weak stamina.

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    Krauser won't hit neither Taira or Momo with Hb, Nakagauchi perfectly dodged it and Taira is 1st string level who would have probably stomped Nakagauchi and Momo defeated Taira, so Krauser is useless here. Curved laser won't work that much, maybe he can take at least one game but BJK will damage their wrists. I change the result, Momo/Taira win 6-1.
    I don't think Taira would ''stomp'' Nakagauchi too much. Taira is a one-trick-pony like Hakamada is.
    Taira is Bakyuun and nothing much else.
    Krauser will definetely land Taira at least once with Southern Cross. Taira couldn't even move out of the way of BJK which took out Hara and Taira in one shot.

    Taira/Momoshiro to win though. But it won't be a complete shut-out. Krauser will hurt somebody. And Yagyuu's laser will take a game or two until Yagyuu is brave enough to try and return a BJK. Then he or Krauser die.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Even though Krauser has power, Momo's BJK will whip him. The BJK would probably break Yagyuu's wrists if he tried to return it, but he's smart enough not to try unless he has a trick up his sleeve. Taira isn't anything special, but he'd get the job done.
    Yagyuu's laser would pretty troublesome though, I'd wager that could take a couple games.
    Southern Cross would not be enough to put down Taira or Momo (Maybe Taira), but BJK > Southern Cross, so this match goes to Taira/Momo, 6-2

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Unless stated otherwise it's pretty safe to assume going from middle schooler -> court 3 -> court 1 -> G11-20 -> G10 gets you increasing level of physical stats. Irie, who is presumably a G10 tier character, has a stamina rating of 2 but shrugged off a triple digit tiebreaker against the stamina 5 Atobe, reinforcing the fact that higher tier characters just simply have better physical stats for no apparent reason.

    Taira's tier (G11-20) is much higher than his two opponents, and since his two opponents hasn't showed any recent improvements he must be assumed to have far superior base stats than either of the two.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    I could be alone on this, but my instincts say Yagyuu/Krauser. Yagyuu is definitely on or above Taira's level, and I do not (nor ever will) consider Momo to be anywhere near top 10 level. I do not care if he stole Oni's technique. That doesn't mean it is as good as Oni's. A BJK from Momo is not Rai. I can see Krauser being able to return it with 5 power. Krauser will counter Momo, and Yagyuu will counter Taira. It is not a blowout by any stretch of the imagination. I go with Yagyuu/Krauser 7-6

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    A BJK from Momo is not Rai.
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    I can see Krauser being able to return it with 5 power. Krauser will counter Momo, and Yagyuu will counter Taira. It is not a blowout by any stretch of the imagination. I go with Yagyuu/Krauser 7-6
    Krauser who couldn't counter DM!Kirihara?
    Taira's technique still does damage to racket strings.

    It could be a shutout. As if Yagyuu and Krauser could handle constant BJK's.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    I gotta ask, what's to say a Southern Cross wouldn't KO Taira or Momo?

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShiraishi View Post
    I gotta ask, what's to say a Southern Cross wouldn't KO Taira or Momo?
    It took 3 games for the Southern Cross to become active.
    What's to say Krauser's wrists will last consecutive BJK's?
    What's to say Bakyuun doesn't bust the racket strings of Krauser.

    Although I expect Curving Laser + Laser combo and HB to do damage.
    I agree now, it shouldn't be a shutout.

    But Taira/Momoshiro to win this.
    This is a battle of One-Trick-Ponies.
    The main issue is HB takes 3 games to become Southern Cross.
    Bakyuun and BJK are just really high.

    I reckon Taira and Yagyuu will go head-to-head. But BJK is just that good.
    And nothing suggests it is too significantly weaker than Oni's. Momo is known to be powerful.

    This would definetely be a good match however.

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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShiraishi View Post
    I gotta ask, what's to say a Southern Cross wouldn't KO Taira or Momo?
    I gotta say, what makes you think southern cross can even be hit on the first place? Krauser won't be able to hit it on the ball that Taira and Momo hit AT all, since his racquet will be hole and his hand will break as soon as he hits it. Yes, that's both enemy.

    The only way he can hit it is that he can hit Cross on serve. I don't think he can.

    The only hope Krauser/Yagyuu pair have for them is Yagyuu. That's all.
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    Re: [Round 2 - Team 3 vs Team 5 Doubles 1] Taira/Momoshiro vs Yagyuu/Krauser

    Krauser and Yagyuu get killed with maybe two or three BJK, unless Yagyuu can quickly hit laser, then I don't think he could do that much.

    Krauser could use hopping ball, but I see Momo and Taira holding their ground, and resisting the shots, and BjK would also damage Krauser wrists. Bakyuun also breaks their racket strings, Momo and Taira win this comfortably. Taira and Momo far exceed Krauser in stamina and power, only Yagyuu could do damage to them or take a game or two, until Momo hits BJK and kills their wrists.

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