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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
I will never understand why people bash this guy for doing the exact same thing other mangaka are praised for.
And I remember every character. I can even spell "NaNaNa Najahkoop" correctly. The only requisite is to care enough. I always believed that people who write on forums are people who care a lot about the manga in question, but I guess I was wrong.
Pardon me for the overall tone, but this is getting really, really old. Not every minor character needs to be developed. I believe the problem is that Kubo actually overdevelops most of the secondary characters (devoting pages and pages and even volume covers on unnecessary characters like Mizuiro, Hayasegawa, Dordoni or half of the Visored); we have gotten so used to this that we now feel a little off when he just does THE SAME THING EVERY MANGAKA DOES and brings new characters to the table.
I think it is fair to point out that Bleach readers have been force fed a lot of characters that well...some were okay, but others were largely forgettable. Some fans took to the Vizards. I didn't happen to enjoy them so much, but they were okay. Then, we got a ton of Espadas and fraccion, a few of whom really resonated. But he killed off Ulquiorra (which, I guess made sense, story-wise) and left Grimmjow's fate up in the air. The one he did bring back was Harribel, who is supposed to be the most powerful Espada left, but honestly, she wasn't so much. After most of the interesting Espadas died and Aizen was sealed away, we were treated to the most boring arc in history. Hey, it served it's purpose in getting Ichi's powers back, but again, we were force fed the fullbringers (who, come on...they were not very developed. We learned so little about them, how could we care?) Exit the fullbringers and in come a host of enemies who, as well drawn as they were, were unknown and undeveloped when they started #$%^-slapping our favorite characters in what has to be the most embarrassing set of 'good guy' losses of all time. And at the end of all that, we still know next to nothing about the SRs and Juha Bach. How in the heck are we supposed to invest in? Now, the RG is probably going to step in with more characters we have to learn to like. But maybe I'm just a little jaded. I don't feel inclined to invest in new characters when Kubo treats the ones that fans already feel invested in to such embarrassing defeats and deaths. As much as people use the escuse that 'real life is like that,' I think that manga readers like that they're dealing with fantasy, and it's refreshing to not have all the doom and gloom of "reality" dogging us.
Yes, other mangakas do bring in characters, and the better storytellers do something to help readers connect with those characters. It isn't my fault that I feel apathetic towards characters that after how many chapters we still know nothing about and have no reason to invest in. That's not whining or being unfair. It is the mangaka's job to capture the reader and draw them in, not just with flashy drawings, but with things they can relate to. Some people are relating and that's great. But don't beat up on the folks for whom these nothing characters are just not working.
The explosion in the sky is Yama's final Zanka no-tachi form (like final getsuga tensou), Zanka no-tachi Center. From a Chinese person perspective: East represents the sun rising, west represents the remnant sun, south represents the ground and life giving power of the sun, north represents the sky, the boundary between heaven and earth. Then what is the Center of all this ? The body it self.
In page 13, it shows Juha Bach disintegrate yama's lifeless body along with his sword ryuujin jakka into tiny bits of pieces (shown at the bottom right panel). What if the condition for the final Zanka no-tachi is to completely bind between body and sword ? (Sort of like mugetsu, you become one with your sword).
Flame, is considered a plasma state. What is plasma ? it is a state of matter just like solid, gas, liquid. Yama's final zanka no-tachi will be a perfect bound between his body and sword in the form of a stupidly cool looking blue plasma flame forming out of the chaos.
Another note to consider, we are talking about genryusai yamamoto. The most powerful entity in soul society and should be a genius on his own level. Ichigo and possibly Isshin mastered their final getsuga tenshou in such a short time. Genryusai had thousand of years to know every single atomic structure of his ryuujin jakka.
With his bankai stolen, what else could he possibly do ? Being the final technique, just like mugetsu, yama probably never tried it him self and being very different with a regular bankai, the fact that juha bach stole his bankai shouldn't matter.
So what is Yama's zanka no-tachi Center ? Being the sun, a star final state of life is to go Supernova. A star that is about to undergo supernova is because they ran out of fuel and their massive gravity force starts to pull the star inward. The massive gravitational superheats the core and eventually caused a supernova. See the similarity ? Yama runs out of fuel and needs to do something. He probably would need to disintegrate his own body in-order to pull off the final zanka no-tachi, but he cant because juha stole it. So he needs Juha to disintegrate his body instead.
Being a disgruntled star superheated at it's core and about to explode, yama should be in a brilliant shining blue plasma god mode that even juha bach will wet his pants. Unfortunately just like a star that undergo supernova, briefly outshining an entire galaxy worth of radiation in a short time, Yama can probably only do one final concentrated supernova attack towards juha bach (just like mugetsu, who cares about soul society its already destroyed anyway). Afterward God mode yama should slowly disintegrate into nothingness saying his final farewell to shunsui and ukitake and leaving behind the destruction trail like a true supernova.
Juha Bach will not die from this attack. Possibly because of blondie being really smart and analytical individual like kisuke. He would shield both juha and him self and deflect most of the attack. They both will be gravely injured and forced to retrieve and lick their wound.
Now we can finally transition to the next chapter. Yama is still dead, but his monstrosity power is justified and he will not go out without a big fucking bang as the most powerful entity in soul society. Fans are happy Yama is not some push over that dies in one slice, Bleach jump to number one rank in Japan, Kubo got the praise from Barrack Obama and he will be awarded 20 years of more Bleach contract and the anime will be resumed.
Or it could be hollow ichigo bursting out of the sky
I think some of you need to remember that Yama-ji was the most powerful of all the shinigami and with using all the power he could muster into his Bankai, wears him down quite a bit. And then to have it stolen by an enemy that is most likely equally powerful to you or beyond, what more can you actually do at that point. Yama could've dodged all he wanted, but Juha would've killed him anyways. It was inevitable and Yama knew he'd lost, once his power was stolen. period.
Yama had the expression on his face because he knew there was nothing more for him to and that Soul Society was indeed in serious trouble. As a leader, he's put his faith in the remaining members of the Gotei 13 and Ichigo.
After learning about Yama-ji's past and some of the foundation of the Gotei 13, I'm wondering if, Juha was one of the original members and his zanpakuto ability is what was used to create the "Quincy" itself. Somewhat farfetched, but just wondering. And those other members, could be the Zero Division that Hikifune joined 100 years ago.
The explosion could be the person that saved Ichigo from Kirge's prison. If Ichigo does appear, he'll most likely fight Haschwald for a moment and the battle will continue at the Vandereich's headquarters. I just want to see, Unohana's Bankai debut, when that happens as Kubo has confirmed in "Bleach Reboot".
@Shiru17 see thats the thing i've been thinking along those lines too with the whole phoenix and rebirth thing and you bring in another good perspective with the star going supernova, Yama's power essentially represent nuclear fusion, when a star goes supernova sometimes it is 'reborn' as a Pulsar which has more power but is condense SIGNIFICANTLY (so we can look at it like Ichigo where all the power is condensed so much within u can't sense it - Dangai training version)
but as much as i want to believe that the explosion in the sky above Juha is Yama-ji reborn it seems to me Kubo has this manga in high gear so i'm not sure he wont just simply move on.....but there's slight hope
i really think the hint in this case is the fact that Yama said absolutely nothing during that whole chapter.....that in itself was odd....very odd
and i have a hard time believing his spirit was broken so easily
Last edited by SaitoSpike; October 10, 2012 at 07:44 PM.
Might be one of the following :
3-nothing...and juha will just turn back and go finish whatever he wanted
now seriously , yama is dead... he was split in two , kubo wouldn't dare bring him back to life because they might sentence him to prison in japan for excessive trolling (along with kishi, if he doesn't stop his BS)
Edit: nevertheless, your post was very nice ... you should contact kubo's editor, you could give him a hand (also,while you are on it, contact kishi's as well)
Last edited by tousendrinksbleach; October 10, 2012 at 07:47 PM.
@shiru17. If that's the case, then Yamamoto wouldn't have yelled "Bankai" right before it was stolen by Juha. Ichigo needed to be in Bankai mode in order to use "Final Getsuga Tenshou" and he fought himself within his mind for the first time while in Bankai before learning the technique. So, I doubt the explosion is anything to do with Yamamoto's power directly.
It could be Ryuuken and Uryuu for all we know or someone Juha wasn't expecting. That's my guess, based on Juha's expression.
Decent chapter, the story is progressing faster than I expected. We finally got an explanation as to why Yama did not get his arm healed by Orihime, despite Juha Bach calling it "stupid sense of honor" its good to see that not every shinigami is fine with having an outsider help them or rescuing them like some damsel in distress. Still cannot get over the Squad 12 members acting like that when they contacted Ichigo, they are supposed to be soldiers.
I bet orihime will reverse all the damage done to soul society
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