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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Last edited by chilibun; October 03, 2012 at 12:16 PM.
Last edited by chilibun; October 03, 2012 at 12:38 PM.
As far as the missions go minato was not a kage at the time. During the gaiden he was just another soldier and based on what we know he was just a soldier during the recent events. As a soldier minato nor his students get to pick their battles. They go where told to when told to BECAUSE they are told to. Any more than that is beyond a soldiers rights. Its not minato's fault he was assigned those missions nor that his team got sent elsewhere basically.
To be fair he thought obito was dead at the time. With his intuition he could only get as far as suggesting madara was the one who was behind everything. Its not like he ever had reason to believe obito would have had known the stuff which he knew thanks to madara. More so, obito had his body changed quite a bit into mokuton and apparently grown beyond its years (tobi was a full sized adult while kakashi still seemed to be in the kid area).
Another thing is that as far as we know they had no means to seal kyubi other than shiki fujin. Kushina's actual initial plan was to seal the kyubi inside herself and die with it which would result in an eventual resurrection of the kyubi elsewhere. Kushina seemed to have the ability to seal the kyubi inside herself but never to seal it inside others. If the priority was that there would be a jinchuiriki then the only optioned seemed to be the shinigami and sealing it inside kushina was a bad choice as she was already dying and minato was a bad choice because the shinigami was about to take his soul.
Its not like they could, you know, ambush Kushina and the future vessel when the Kyuubi would be swapped, after all its not like they are immortal.
Also that's false, the whole Uchiha mistrust started when Niidaime Hokage isolated them, and the Uchiha massacre was spurred by Danzou and the Uchiha's greed.
Lastly, considering how Naruto will achieve his world-peace agenda, Yondaime's gamble will be a winning one, in the end.
Shame, because I really would like Mads to win
By that logic, she shouldn't have sent anyone if losing Sasuke didn't matter, since every little bit helps, right? But not only did she send a chuunin and four genin against strong Oto ninjas, she even called for back-up from Suna. And note, I said that this wouldn't be about bring Sasuke back, it would be about taking prisoners directly connected to Orochimaru. A prisoner who they could possible gain important intel from or even a location for Orochimaru would be a major prize for the village. It would mean they could potentially take the offensive and confront Orochimaru on their terms, instead of on his terms after he had time to prepare. Orochimaru had already proven that simply defending the village was meaningless, and that was when it was at full strength. If the village at full strength could barely manage against him, it would be foolish to believe a village at a third of the strength could, thus thinking ahead and attempting to be proactive would have been the smarter tactical move.
i think yodaime didn't fail in many ways, minato died to young and we couldn't see an stronger hokage but as far as we know he protect the village from tobi and took care of the kyuubi but minato didn't live to long..
Did Minato see Tobi's Sharingan or evne know about that? I don't recall.....
I doubt anything would have happened to Naruto, considering how Minato's seal was able to keep Kyuubi at bay until Part II. By then, Jiraiya came up with a seal to kick the Kyuubi back in the cage. What Minato did was Death Reaper seal, completely different from the seal he used on Naruto. The effects shouldn't be the same at all.
Are you serious? So if i take some money with me and go buy something but some random dude X finds out i have money on me and robes me its my fault for having the money on me?
Kushina was his wife... Of course they wanted kids... Its clearly Tobi's fault... If Tobi did not attack nothing would have happened.
He said so himself, he can't seal more then 50%:Quote:
In case you where refering to the normal seal then read below.
And you know this how? You can go with plot hole but that is about it. Minato was a smart man. If he could seal 100% of Kyuubi in Naruto(or in himself) and live he would have done that. That was not about the seal holding but Naruto's body holding to all that power.Quote:
So you can choose plot hole or accept the fact that he could not seal all of it. So in essence accept that what happened with the DG seal would happen with the normal seal. I mean the DG seal is obviously even a GREATER sealing jutsu... I would find it really strange to belive the better seals that you give your life for is actualy worse.
The thing is a plot hole would only be if Kishi confirms Minato could use the normal seal and seal the entire Kyuubi in Naruto. To that point we don't know if that is possible and so its not a plot hole.
Last edited by xXan; October 04, 2012 at 02:04 AM.
Yes, "it's physically and conceptually impossible".
... sealing the whole fox in Naruto or in Minato?
I guess that, should Yondaime be able to seal Kyuubi, he would've done it in a heartbeat, since it would destroy forever Tobi/Madara's plan, and spare his son a sad childhood
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-it would explain his bulk
-it would explain how he managed to control Kyuubi with a 3-tomoe Sharingan while Uchihas needs MS
-it would explain why his left arm, the intact arm, turned into goo
-it would explain how Obito knew where Yondaime teleported when he escaped him, using Zetsu's underground network he would have instant knowledge of everyone's whereabouts.
Also no he didn't, Yondaime teleported to them after Kakashi used the kunai, meaning after Obito was supposedly killed by the Iwa fodder.
I'm talking about sealing the whole Kyuubi in Naruto, though. No reason why he couldn't have done that.
Tobi, not Obito, although they're so far the same. When I say Tobi, I mean Obito who's gone bad.