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Translations: Gintama 506 (2)
Having lost against Tokugawa and trained his ass off, I see Echizen winning against Oni perfectly. Echizen has enough technique to return BJK and Oni's next move.
echizen did gain more skill and technique, but he jsut recently been able to hit 10 balls. while oni and tokugawa been
rallying liek that for an unknown amount of time now, and also increased their skill and technique.
ryoma pretty much has infinite potential, but he is arguely close to kintaro and kintarols level and lost to oni.
could ryoma beat tokugawa? probably not, i'm assuming tokugawa and oni are close to the same skill level and technique level.
For me, Echizen wins.
Hyakuren > Any power shot (that is hit with the gut)
I say that because in the case of Rai, it cannot be returned. Hyakuren takes the copying ability of the original Muga and concentrates it for a doubled return. Since Rai is hit from the frame, a racquet gut cannot replicate the same properties on the shot like the frame can.
Echizen takes the win with Hyakuren since Oni's style is basically all power. You argue that Oni can simply return a doubled shot but can he really? I doubt Oni can return double his own power cleanly. He would probably hit a weak shot which could be exploited by Echizen.
Damn, if no Hyakuren...
Echizen loses XD
http://mangafox.me/manga/prince_of_t...38/c337/4.html - doesn't teleport to Kamikakushi like he does in the anime
http://mangafox.me/manga/prince_of_t...38/c337/9.html - just about made it to drive B.
We've seen nothing of Echizen's Hyakuren or Saiki since Yukimura's match and in all honesty, someone of Oni's level should be able to deal with those. I'll go with Oni.
wow what is the fate of team echizen, this round ends tonight.
also kaoz, thanks for the hyakuren and saiki. i think echizen could win. with a fusion of techniques and hyrakuren, I'm thinking echizen will evolve to fuse the techniques of others he's seen.
but once and for all i'm not changing my vote, technically a player at oni's level should be able to see through all special moves hit at him,
except some like RAI.
also oni's level probably will return most special moves of tezuka's that he's seen niou use. maybe not at first, but after a while he'll be able
to find a way to counter.
time for echizen to fall, the only wayw he wins is the author comes up with ways he is supposed to win and evolve. not that he couldn't
but since echizen potential is infinite, we the forum posters, could technically make up the wildest moves. but that's not for us
to do its for the author. no info , since echizen hasn't really played a serious match in u-17 manga.
Echizen Ryoma: 6 votes
Oni Juujirou: 8 votes
Winner: Oni Juujirou