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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
Royd could've been trained by Juha Bach himself just for that, if he does only copy personality and such, guess it means that the guy is pretty darn strong, I don't see what would stop Juha Bach from teaching him a lot of stuff just to fool Yama and SS
Kenpachi likes to feel the heat of the battle, he keeps fighting in the same level of the opponent to have fun.
I think he underestimated, and the ST one shoted him with his strongest attack.
It's obvious how Kenpachi lost. The name 'Royd' obviously means he's on 'roids, and Kenpachi is all natural baby.
Nah but if Kenpachi truly is as strong as he is made out to be in that novel, then holy crap. Twenty times the reiatsu? So what this guy is on Yamamoto's level now? Come oooon....
If so, maybe he was just beaten due to his lack of good shunpo, a zanpakuto, kido, and brains.
Even Yama could not survive without his zan.
Royd probably fought Kenpachi in a way that he couldn't fight, something more tactical/intellectual.
Again, Yama is a good example of tactics being very effective against a powerhouse.
Last edited by Notak; December 02, 2012 at 11:39 PM.
I highly doubt Royd used any trickery...from the first attack of Kenpachi on Royd it was clear his Blut Vene was not breached, given he was unharmed after the whole fight, it is increasingly clear that Kenpachi at full power then (without eyepatch) still could not breach it...lets be honest this guy took Ryujin Jaka to the arm and got a small cut for it, most people turn to ash from just that (Driscoll anyone?)...despite our love for Kenpachi, the honest truth is that he was pummeled to the point of losing consciousness. Royd was a beast
IMO Kenpachi was beaten that way for plot reasons and nothing more.
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honestly i am kinda ticked that this fight was off-page, much like kenpachi's fight against the vandenrich that he took out, both fights should have been on-page, especially with the manga ending after this arc
i will never understand the concept of off-screen or -off page fights especially with this much on the line and in this epic of a moment in the story
Zaraki's problem is his enjoyment of the fight, if someone who can hurt him goes full out instantly at the start they can seriously do alot of damage to him before he can maybe realise he needs to stop pissing about and go eyepatch-off.
Kenpachi got beat because he faced a superior opponent (like I said before). What is there to argue about?
If they argue about him losing, imagine their reaction in other topic where people say Kenpachi's weak. XD
kenpachi was busy questioning himself, so he could not fight properly
My interpretation of it is this:
It's not clear whether Juha Bach took out Kenpachi and then went to talk to Aizen, or if Royd copied Juha Bach's powers and then beat up Kenpachi. I'm leaning towards the first option, because when Bach was holding Kenpachi up, he commented that maybe he shouldn't have considered him a War Potential, talking as if he was actually Bach. Kenpachi was out cold, and Haschwald was the only other guy there, so it wouldn't make sense for him to pretend to be Bach then, unless it was just to fool the readers. Who knows?
It seems to me that Royd was more formidable than his brother Lloyd due to the fact that he copied Juha Bach, who is monstrously powerful.
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Let's have a shot, though.
Loyd imitated Kenpachi, and the end, he ended up losing, which is plausible. Maybe Royd not only copied Bach's appearance, but also attributes of his body, too, so, he was physically a lot stonger than Kenpachi. That would explain him tanking Ryuujin Jakka, as well. And without gaining access to Bach's special skills, perhaps he was able to possess a Blut Vene of the same degree.
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Remember the guy Ichigo annihilated right after he arrived at SS. He was so full of himself and got one-shot.