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Thread: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

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    [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa



    Singles 2Kai YuujirouAkutagawa Jirou
    SchoolHiga 3rd YearHyoutei Gakuen 3rd Year
    Height175 cm160 cm
    Weight63 kg49 kg
    Dominant HandLeftRight
    PlaystyleOffensive Counter PuncherServe and Volley
    TechniquesShukuchihou
    Viking Horn
    Magic Volley

    Serve order: Akutagawa -> Kai


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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    I'm probably minority here, considering how much fan Jirou seems to have. But Shukuchihou seems to render Volley pretty useless. Moreover, Kai also had mountain training compare to U-17 training, which seems to give more result. I'm giving this one to Kai. Jirou's score just isn't something I see boasting about. And I feels National! Kikumaru can steals more than 1 game from Fuji (3 counter), too.
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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    As Ken said, Magic Volley isn't that good, and even though Kai isn't that great, Shukuchihou should be able to deal with it. Viking Horn might also trip up Jirou a bit.

    I'm going 6-4 Kai.

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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    Shukuchihou seems to render Volley pretty useless.
    Kai only has vertical Shukuchihou, if Jirou hits the ball to a corner then Shukuchihou is useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    Moreover, Kai also had mountain training compare to U-17 training, which seems to give more result.
    We don't know if that's true, Atobe didn't go to the mountain and improved a lot comparing to others. Sakata got zig zag ,Kenya learnt how to balance, Gakuto learnt how to jump lower... and they all went to the mountain. Mountain players had more screen time, that's all.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    And I feels National! Kikumaru can steals more than 1 game from Fuji (3 counter), too.
    It's a pity that this is Jirou vs Kai and not Fuji vs Kikumaru lol
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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    Kai only has vertical Shukuchihou, if Jirou hits the ball to a corner then Shukuchihou is useless.
    Shukuchihou is not useless. Jirou haven't shown ability to hit to control his shot that precisely, at all. Jirou can't volley and do a drop shot against Kai. We don't even knows if Jirou can handle viking horn. Jirou is very much overrated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    It's a pity that this is Jirou vs Kai and not Fuji vs Kikumaru lol
    Jirou can steal only 1 game from 3 counter Fuji. Kikumaru looks like he can do more than that. Kai fought Kikumaru on even ground. Is there anything hard to understand?
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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    Shukuchihou is not useless. Jirou haven't shown ability to hit to control his shot that precisely, at all. Jirou can't volley and do a drop shot against Kai. We don't even knows if Jirou can handle viking horn. Jirou is very much overrated.



    Jirou can steal only 1 game from 3 counter Fuji. Kikumaru looks like he can do more than that. Kai fought Kikumaru on even ground. Is there anything hard to understand?
    Technically, Fuji was screwing around and let Jirou win a service game. Sure, the set score was 6-1, but we all know that it was a bagel and probably a golden set as well.

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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    Shukuchihou is not useless. Jirou haven't shown ability to hit to control his shot that precisely, at all. Jirou can't volley and do a drop shot against Kai.
    DAFUQ? Do you know what Magic Volleys mean? Very well aimed volleys that barely bounce.



    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    Jirou can steal only 1 game from 3 counter Fuji. Kikumaru looks like he can do more than that. Kai fought Kikumaru on even ground. Is there anything hard to understand?
    I understood you, but that's comparing too much. The question you should be doing is: Do you see KAI winning ANY games against Reg! Fuji? Personally, I don't.
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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Although Shukuchihou is only in one plane it's still going to neutralize the vast majority moves that relies on hitting the ball to somewhere you're not. Magic Volley definitely seems to fall under that category. Looking at how it's depicted, it seems like someone near the net standing around the middle can easily hit them all back if he got there on time, and someone with Shukuchihou will always get there on time.

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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    I don't think Jiro would lose to Kikumaru in singles, so I'm going with Jiro over Kai.

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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    I don't think Jiro would lose to Kikumaru in singles, so I'm going with Jiro over Kai.
    Same.
    Kikumaru and Kai are on the same level.
    Jiro is where Kenya, Jackal and Hiyoshi are imo.

    ---------- Post added at 05:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:27 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    We don't know if that's true, Atobe didn't go to the mountain and improved a lot comparing to others. Sakata got zig zag ,Kenya learnt how to balance, Gakuto learnt how to jump lower... and they all went to the mountain. Mountain players had more screen time, that's all.
    Fair point, but all in all, so far, we have seen the Losers improve much more. Let's be honest.

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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Jirou wins because of Magic Volley. Jirou only needs to aim it at the corner to counter Shukuchihou.
    "Sorry, but I never lose to the same opponent twice." - Fuji

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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuji Shusuke View Post
    Jirou wins because of Magic Volley. Jirou only needs to aim it at the corner to counter Shukuchihou.
    True. As Kai's Shukuchihou is countered by aiming at the sides, Jirou could just do his Magic volley in a corner (diagonally) and Kai won't be able to use it. Kai and Kikumaru are in the same level, and I see Jirou defeating Kikumaru and Kai. He should be able to eventually return Viking Horn.

    6-4 to Jirou.

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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Kai and Chinen are just awful versions of Kite.
    Hirakoba is an okay version.

    Tanishi is just an extremely uncool Kite. That's personally how I view Higa.

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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Kai and Chinen are just awful versions of Kite.
    Hirakoba is an okay version.

    Tanishi is just an extremely uncool Kite. That's personally how I view Higa.
    I view them as:

    Kai - Gimp Kite
    Tanishi - Gimp Kite at 300 lbs
    Chinen - Gimp Kite at 90 lbs and mentally disabled
    Rin - Kite with Giant Habu

    So really, Rin is the closest one to being less Kite than the rest because he has his own technique.

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    Re: [Semifinals - Team 2 vs Team 12 Singles 2] Kai vs Akutagawa

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    I view them as:

    Kai - Gimp Kite
    Tanishi - Gimp Kite at 300 lbs
    Chinen - Gimp Kite at 90 lbs and mentally disabled
    Rin - Kite with Giant Habu

    So really, Rin is the closest one to being less Kite than the rest because he has his own technique.
    He doesn't have anything, Habu's Kite technique too lol.

    Kai= Viking Horn, southpow, cap.
    Tanishi= Carioca Step, Big Bang Serve, Fat.
    Chinen= lol, Chinen.
    Hikaroba= Tachibana's fanboy, Habu, dyed Hair.

    Kite= Everything except Carioca Step, glasses, jerk.
    Last edited by Hardy; October 11, 2012 at 10:08 AM.
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