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Thread: Bleach 513 Discussion

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    The Original 伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member thornofcarrion's Avatar
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    Re: Bleach 513 Spoiler Discussion

    The sources are genuine and they hardly allow fake spoilers for so long.

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    Re: Bleach 513 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    My impression on the matter has always been the exact opposite of that. Rather than quincy abilities being innate traits I always got the impression that most of their skills (except the abilities on which stern rittern letters are based) are learned and acquired. Ichigo is technically half human though, there is no scenario under which it does not make sense he is able to learn quincy techniques. I am still not too happy about that development though, I would prefer if it turned out ichigo as a shinigami hollow hybrid figured out hierro.
    While Quincies are humans, they are born with their special abilities. That's the reason why Mayuri kept and study some of their dead bodies including Ishida's grandfather. That would be pointless if the abilities are simply learned. Ishida had also lost his Quincy powers and that wouldn't make sense if his abilities are simply learned. Then again, consistency has never been Kubo's strong points.

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    Re: Bleach 513 Spoiler Discussion

    These recent spoilers have reinforced an idea that I have been holding for some time.
    What if the war potentials are not potentials because of their possible danger to the quincy, but because they could potentially be turned to the side of the quincy?

    It fits for all the currently confirmed potentials, and also helps explain why Yamamoto wasn't one.

    Yamamoto - not a war potential as his honor wouldn't allow him to switch sides. Johann Bach stated previously that Yamamoto wasn't a war potential due to his change of character. Perhaps, had he been willing to use anything to help him achieve his goals/whatever, he would have been willing to switch to the quincy side in what they were planning to do next? I do not believe that revenge on SS is their true aim in this arc.

    Aizen - Would potentially change sides when he knew what the Quincy were actually after. Perhaps it is overthrowing the soul king (although, then, Yamamoto would never join them... so perhaps not).

    Kenpachi - Perhaps Johann Bach thought that Kenpachi only cared about fighting strong opponents, and so would change side if he offered them to Kenpachi? What could be stronger than the 0 squad or the Soul King (though perhaps he isn't a being at all?)?

    Ichigo - Has always followed what he believes to be Justice/what is right. Perhaps Johann Bach believed he could turn Ichigo's allegiance through fooling him into thinking something was a greater threat to his realm/friends?

    I see that there is a strong chance at this not being true (Yamamoto sure ruins my theory a bit), but it is an interesting prospect to me anyway.
    Infinite RAGE!

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    Re: Bleach 513 Spoiler Discussion

    Can't say that I didn't saw it coming, for all of those who called me crazy - BOOYAH!!!

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    Re: Bleach 513 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by chilibun View Post
    Because Quincy techniques are based on Quincies ability to break down, absorb, and manipulate reishi particles. If irc, those are Quincy's inherent abilities and not something that anybody can just learn.
    But they don't seem inherent, but a granted ability from Bach. In any case, they seem to have different mechanics then other Quincy abilities.

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    Re: Bleach 513 Spoiler Discussion

    Learning Quincy's abilities may not be impossible. Quincy are humans. A spiritual / reiatsu awakened person like Ichigo may learn them.

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    Re: Bleach 513 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by thornofcarrion View Post
    Learning Quincy's abilities may not be impossible. Quincy are humans. A spiritual / reiatsu awakened person like Ichigo may learn them.
    There is a difference between learning something and obtaining something seemingly out of thin air. Point being is that Ichigo didn't just pick up on Quincy abilities out of the blue simply because he is a "spiritual/reiatsu awakened person". If that was the case then why aren't Inoue, Chad and co. also picking up on Quincy abilities if all it took was to be a human with awakened spiritual/reiatsu? The most likely explanation is that Bach simply gave Ichigo Quincy abilities, which makes sense because we've been informed that he can give/alter Quincy abilities. Especially when you take into account that he has created Hollows with Quincy abilities. Plus its becoming increasingly clear that all of the different powers/abilities we are seeing in Bleach can all be used by one being under the proper circumstances. Ie. Aizen and Ichigo.

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    Re: Bleach 513 Discussion / 514 Predictions

    Chapter is out

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    Re: Bleach 513 Discussion / 514 Predictions

    Nice..but so short ><

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    Re: Bleach 513 Discussion / 514 Predictions

    OMG... he really is part Quincy then ;/;/;/ lame...

    Hope Juha Bach will still pawn him anyway and take him to the castle.

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    Re: Bleach 513 Discussion / 514 Predictions

    Killing Byakuya was a bold move, he had huge fan following. I am sad to see him die. Moving on, quite interesting this chapter was. Before labelling it lame, have to wait and see how come Ichigo used Blut Vene. From his facial expression, I get the impression he doesn't know either. Juha is truly a monster, Ichigo got beat so easily.

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    Re: Bleach 513 Discussion / 514 Predictions

    The tip of that sword being in his neck probably still hurt a lot. Bach wins this round!

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    Re: Bleach 513 Discussion / 514 Predictions

    Well at least i know why the anime was cancelled because this manga is loosing its substance........... blut vene?? really?? kubo pulled it out of you know where *cough*


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    Re: Bleach 513 Discussion / 514 Predictions

    Well on one hand im happy that Bach beat the hell out of Ichigo without even trying(despite what some people thought) but on the other hand im disappointed that Ichigo somehow is part quincy. Not as good as the last two chapters but hey, what can you do.

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