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Kidding aside, we seen hashirama's bloody face. So madara must hurt him. And collected some of hashirama's blood after their fight.
Kabuto just created his fusion body through the blood he collected to Karin, jugo and suigetsu. So yeah. Maybe madara did the same.
- We know in Narutoverse bodies are disposed with great care as they are considered state secrets. Why didn't Konoha ensure this in the case of Madara or more importantly Hashirama's DNA, limb, blood whatever that was left over at VOTE.
- Hashirama and Madara being the god-like shinobi would not allow themselves to be killed or have their limbs taken away easily. So I am guessing these two events happened together. Madara decided to trade a "fatal shot" to himself in exchange for a limb from Hashirama.
- Most likely there will be the gigantic Gedo Mazo asspull. This asspull will put to rest all questions like how did Madara grow a ginormous tree with a teeny piece of flesh, why didn't Hashirama's kids or grandkids do anything special etc etc. We have already had a peek at this :
And this is how I am growing Hashirama cells
So the real hax is not just hashirma cells but hashirama cells + Mazo
Last edited by synapse; October 23, 2012 at 05:15 AM.
Same thing Orochimaru did, but quicker? So far, only Itachi has shown great skills in genjutsu. Most other Uchiha may not have used genjutsu as much or weren't that good at it. Despite what people think, Uchiha genjutsu is breakable.
Last edited by M3J; October 23, 2012 at 10:41 AM.
Typos ftw! BUt yeah, that's what I meant. Hashirama could definitely break out of and use genjutsu, unless Madara never used genjutsu. Though, I don't think Madara was able to use genjutsu on Hashirama to trick him into thinking Madara died, if Tobi's words are anything to go by.
Doesn't look like someone who is vastly superior to me. Healing techniques allowed Hashirmama to constantly heal himself, whereas Madara only tired himself out. You don't think this is a deciding factor in the battle of that caliber? It's a monstrous advantage. The ultimate deciding factor between victory and defeat. Whether you agree with it or not, is your own opinion.
Honestly, you just sound as if the reason why hashirama defeated madara is just because of his healing power.
I've been reading that kind of arguments for quite some time now,
If nagato doesn't have the rinnegan his useless.
If minato doesn't have his hiraishin his useless.
I mean, what's wrong if hashirama has an amzng healing power? It's part of his caliber.
And what do you think of madara's perfect susanoo? It's also a monstrous advantage of him.
The ultimate healing power or the ultimate shield?
the ultimate deciding factor between the two?
Both of them.
^He did, but I didn't mention otherwise because it's yet to be confirmed that EMS effects the chakra drain caused by MS techniques. Or strengthens MS techniques for that matter. There was no real reason to differentiate.
Last edited by ninjabot; October 23, 2012 at 08:21 PM.
Even during his fight with Kabuto, he doesn't seem tired even after using sussano for a long time. I believe the term 'Eternal' is a metaphor for techniques as well; breaking the barriers of MS? That's just a hypothesis though, but as EMS is the pinnacle of sharingen, I could not be so far off.
Danzou lost the ability to use the eye after using Izanagi and Obito mentioned it was imperfect, though he trued to take advantage of Hashirama's dna. Obito used it with a sharingan in his left eye, and it went blind. But what if you wouldn't go blind in that eye if you had the EMS AND Hashirama's DNA?
Point is, I can see Kishimoto changing the rules in order to make Obito, Madara or Sasuke 'special' in comparison to others. He can come up with some sort of exception to the rule that will allow someone like Sasuke use the jutsu without going blind. Like... maybe Sasuke and Madara can use it without going blind becasue they have the "Eternal" MS, which helped them to not lose the light to