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And minato didn't become a legend because of his DG/his other amazing jutsu , he become legend and the most dangerous man in the battlefield is because of his amazing speed that can kill his enemies in a blink of a second. So kabuto must prepare to counter his amazing speed and not on his DG jutsu.
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-blinded by Hashirama's genjutsu
Yondaime sealed half of Kyuubi's chakra in a jiffy, and we can all agree 50% Kyuubi chakra is infinitely more huge, powerful and all than Kabuto's
Hell just make them when doing a shunshin and they are unreadable
Kabuto doesn't need a counter to Minato's speed, since not only does his natural sensory allow him to react to instant attacks, but his defenses would make Minato's attacks moot.
And why would Kabuto give a damn about Jiraiya's hair? A bunch of needles aren't gonna stop a bunch of liquid snakes.
Also why is that, considering Shunshin is seal-less? Also we saw Naruto in recent chapters employing shunshin while using his chakrarms, and Third Raikage uses Shunshin together with Hell Fingers.
Lastly, how can Kabuto know Yondaime is using Death God seal if he doesn't know the handseals? Pretty weak if its only because he rarely uses handseals, since, for example, he used them to create the barrier that teleported Kyuubi's Bijuudama.
Kyuubi probably didn't even bother fighting back or couldn't.
The point is that he doesn't need to know the specific handsigns. Even if Kabuto guesses wrong and Minato uses a different technique, Kabuto loses nothing by dodging/taking precaution. If anything, he would still be able to create an opening for his own attack afterward.
I found the perfect scan for it, actually :
here you have Yondaime using Shunshin to get close to Kyuubi while summoning Gamabunta on top of him.
Smelling out someone is not actual sensory, at least in this regard. For example, how would they tell which of a bunch of snakes is Kabuto, or in which giant bone he's moving through, or that the Kabuto in front of them is just a hollow decoy? Simply smelling his scent isn't gonna clue them in to where he's actually at when his scent would either still be there or buried under something.
Not even sure that is an example of shunshin, but what suggests that Minato didn't summon Gamabunta after he had finished shunshin?
I can't figure out why people belive JMan is missing the most besics of SM abilities, the sensing part... But oh well no point in arguing... Also Ma can sense out who the enemy is:
Ma/Pa/Naruto/Kabuto/Snake Sage they all should have the same SM senses, perhaps not all of them have them as advanced but.... Well not going into that again...
One would expect, if Jiraiya had the same sort of sensory abilities as Naruto and Kabuto, then he would have been aware of the last three Paths and avoid a sneak attack. He never really displayed any sensory skills during that battle, not like the other two. Both Naruto and Kabuto have mastered Sage Mode, so perhaps that's why they can do it and he can't.
Are we sure sensing a presence is the same, because we've seen others sense a person's presences without actually being sensors.
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How about Naruto detecting the ENTIRE BATTLEFIELD with people and enemies he NEVER got to see again by just exiting the cave but he could not sense Nagato and Konan that where just outside Konoha and he had to stab himself... Seriously?
Also Naruto showed those senses in his fight with Pein only when traking him down. Aside from that... Not that much...
Then yes Naruto did say he can feel the entire Konoha now that he has senjutsu chakra in him and made it look like that is a normal ability shared by all. Even Ma/Pa should have it.. Hell Ma senses Pein when they got there in all that dust. Then of coruse not even Ma/Pa could sense the 3 sneaking Pein...
Well what else could it be? Are you telling me the elder frogs themselfs don't have special senses?
Seriously they never showed it as they did not really need to show it. Aside from detecting where Nagato is Naruto did NOT display any SM senses in his fight with Pein... If not for that we would asume (just like with JMan) that he does not have it (aside from looking for Kakashi something that JMan would obviously have no need to do in his fight with Pein)....
Senjutsu chakra works by activating your body, all of it, senses including.
Read what Naruto states here:
Now that he has naure energy... Do you see him stating how he is the only one who can do that? That Ma, Pa, JMan could not do it or how he was a special case? I men ANYTHING?
No he just trows that line like its a NORMAL ability for all after they got senjutsu chakra.
And again here Pa is speaking generaly about the sage mode ability:
Later with Kabuto when dodging that arrow he AGAIN states it generaly like its nature working with him...
I can understand JMan perhaps not having it on the same level but not having it like at all? Now that is absurd. If Naruto showes the ability to kill Pein with a Rasengan then JMan can do the same. Its just about same thing with SM.
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^ How come then Jiraiya didn't sense Animal Realm when it was inside the chameleon?
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Considering how fast Kyuubi can form a Bijuudama and that Yondaime traveled an entire village worth of distance in some seconds, I believe its a shunshin. Also considering how hard-pressed he was on time, with Hiruzen having a Bijuudama on his face
Why did Naruto not sensed the realm that just poped right next to him? Plot? Why did Naruto not sense Konan and Nagato just outside Konoha when he can sense people accross huge distances on the entire battlefield and enemies and allies he NEVER even got to see before (even identify them)? Plot? The best explanation is that the chameleon has the ability to mask chakra, something like Muu.
There is no evidence Naruto didn't sense Konan or Pein in Konoha, he simply didn't know their chakra signatures, or couldn't pinpoint their exact location since Nagato was sending chakra to the bodies, and thus his chakra was all over the place ( and never it was showed Naruto pinpointing everyone's position in the war ). As I recall, Naruto had no problems sensing Hinata being still alive.
As for the "Realm that just poped right next to him" ( I assume you are talking about Preta Path ) he had no time, as Asura Path revived him and the guy shunshined/ran to absorb FRS.
It can be explained by Naruto being unable ( as every other character ) to do 937937 things at the same time, expecially without knowing that Asura Path could revive the other bodies.
Jiraiya on the other hand was immobile, wasn't fighting, and needed Ma to sense Pein.
As for the chameleon's chakra-hiding properties, do link where it is stated.
Better, I'll link to you Jiraiya saying its only invisible and Ma saying "if you're looking for a living creature, we'll find it in no time", which is basically the principle in which the sensing of Sage Mode is based.