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Thread: The truth about Ichigo's powers

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    The truth about Ichigo's powers

    Since the last chapter i have wondered why Ichigo cannot have his Bankai sealed, then i realized that his Bankai was never really a true Bankai. The fact is that Ichigo was able to use his "Final Form" comes from the fact that it was the same move that Ishida used against Captain Kurotsuchi in the form of "Letzt Stil" Except Ichigo never knew how to use such a form and only learned it from Zangetsu. His father must have known about this from the very beginning since no other shinigami has ever been shown to go above Bankai.

    Let's skip forward to his training in the "The Lost Substitute Shinigami" Arc. Since he lost his power he is still a semi spiritual aware human with the power being sealed in his badge. Let's forget about this for one moment and go forward to Rukia stabbing him in the chest in the exact same place that Ishida's father shot his arrow to give back Ishida his power in the exact same way early on in the manga. And this explination below comes from the Manga.

    "The only way to restore the Quincy powers lost to the Quincy: Letzt Stil is to exhaust the body to its limits and then pierce the body 19mm to the right of the heart with a single spiritual arrow"

    This was said exactly in the managa and makes total sense as to how Ichigo got his powers back and they are not able to be stolen.

    Now we have confirmed that Ichigo has both Quincy powers and Shinigami powers as well as being a human for his fullbring in the manga this also includes his hollow power but it's easily explained. My question is why has this been hidden from him and what's the future of his power?

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    Re: The truth about Ichigo's powers

    FGT worked differently than Letzt Still, LS is worse than Vollstandig, Isshin has FGT too, and everything there doesn't make sense. Shinigami have the same way of giving powers. It's 2 times now, when Rukia gave powers to Ichigo. This time, she did that with a sword Urahara made and filled with captain's reiatsu, not arrow. Shinigamis and Quincies don't differ at all in that aspect, so using that as an argument is wrong.

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    Re: The truth about Ichigo's powers

    Of course FGT is different from the lets stilt.... The FGT is specifically a zampakuto technique, it is something innate to ichigo. The lets stilt or volstandig are induced, basically artificial, power the quincy have by using tools. The forms are by no means comparable other than the resulting in a loss of power. More so, the consequences of using either of the forms are different. Ichigo lost every speck of power he had thanks to FGT. He couldn't even see spirits. Ishida had a dramatically different position, he could see spirits and could used the things he charged before losing his power. He could even fight with ryuken to some extent. There is also the consideration that rukia giving ichigo power would have been a huge remarkably improbably coincidence. Lets start with the fact that the quincy arrow which ryuken shot ishida with was not shot at ichigo's heart but 19mm to the heart. Rukia had to stab ichigo in the heart to give him power. So by this logic rukia aimed for his heart and missed by precisely the 19mm to the right....

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    Re: The truth about Ichigo's powers

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    So by this logic rukia aimed for his heart and missed by precisely the 19mm to the right....

    Twice.

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