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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
the infecgted douf could nto physically match priscilla. it managed to drive her back for a moment, but the moment she could make contact her was shredded like tissue.
this creature literally siezed priscilla destroyer's arm and threw her, breaking out of her grip. that is the difference here.
my theory is that it has to do with the infected twin. likely her spikes could have made it to riful somehow. the spikes shoot out independently whether or not the body they come from is still functioning if the pieces are sufficiently large. one spike may have hit riful's corpse, though perhaps only her legs. as both were abyssal level themselves, and the destroyer was mixed in, it created a similar if more subdued reaction to how the destroyer came to be. douf's parts may have been absorbed in this proccess, as a few were likely still around the legs, and or the similarity to douf's skills may be because of what remained of riful's mentality, and the spikse were less from his tissue and more from remnants of consciousness.
Maybe not... the bulk of Priscilla's power is still locked away according to a few chapters ago. That's why she needs to meet up with Cassandra after all so that power can counteract The Destroyers which is keeping Priscilla's power on check atm.
So at the very least this being is >AO but not necessarily >Pricsilla or Destroyer. We just know atm she appears to giving held back Priscilla a good fight, but so did Alicia/Beth tag team and later Hellcat Dauf... till they didn't and died very quickly there after.
Chronos didn't say that the Destroyer Priscilla and that Riful-Doll are at the same level. It was Lars who mentioned that it is a something else that surpasses the Abyssals. We can't gauge power levels from "surpasses the Abyssals," how much stronger than the Abyssal (2x, 3x, 4x, etc), we just don't reallly know.
Chronos probably wants that Riful-Doll to fight Priscilla Destroyer for now, but if Cassandra goes to where the Destroyer Priscilla is to be absorb, then may be even that Riful Doll won't be a match for it, that's probably what he and the awaken beings are thinking. To stop Cassandra from merging with the Destroyer Priscilla, let the Riful Doll weaken it even further, then they all go all out at it to defeat it, or they just wait for the winner between the Riful Doll and the Destroyer Priscilla, and decide what to do then.
this was a great chapter, doubtless here. msot people complain that clare got a hsonen style power boost, but let us remember something. those power boosts were oftne from nwhere, but there are plausible methods in story that clare got her greater pwoers from. she is not gonna break down and start glowing yellow or something here.
the riful doll, which i like the name greatly, is also intriguing. also it seems less out of the ass if you think long enough on it. the remains of riful were in a place littered with pieces of the destroyer. it actually would make since if some remnaint of the destroyer there got into some flesh and reacted. the place was littered with spikes and chopped up creatures and such. it also shares some characteristics to the destroyer, being seemingly mindless and instinctual. however, unlike the willess destroyer, it has something that is giving it a target to go after; hatred. a creature empty of anything else but hatred.
i like how things are giong, at least for the moment. i like how they have the weaker claymores, logically, being back up. they do not have their krillins right in front of the big bad ready for imploding. and clare shows even more evidence that something has radically changed during her time inside, as part, fo the destroyer.
What mini-Riful did to Prissy is a joke compared to what Isley did to her (also in her awakened form)........and we know what happened when she got serious.....
At best the only reason that mini-Riful could create some trouble for Prissy could be that Prissy is too busy with her mental fight against the destroyer, as soon as she'll free herself ('cause one way or another this will happen for sure) Prissy will probably go full power destroying everything and going to fight against Claire (since she'll be super happy to see that Claire is stil alive,lol).
Mini Riful is just a means that Yagi uses to avoid the scenarios to overlap, keeping Prissy busy for some time.
remember when Priscilla said Dauf purposefully infected himself after realising riful "died" well what if he tried to infect Riful to keep her alive but it didnt show any signs of working ? And then lets say that when the Destroyer engulfed most of the west Rifuls body and Alicia and Beths bodys were swallowed too and they fused and maybe somehow broke free from the destroyer but lost half of its body in the process? Becasue looking at the Riful-Doll she has a similair appearence to alicia and beth and like someone said earlier she has the lines down her face that Beth had after she was parasitized.
actually it is her conciousness that is locked away, not her power. body has both herself and the destroyer inside of it, and the destroyer has the reigns right now. while not able to utilize the pwoer the same way priscilla can, priscilla and its power, for the moment, are one and the same. it is a battle of the mind to gain control of that body and its power.
there is a key difference here compared to then. if any of those creature mentioned before got close to priscilla, they got torn apart. she even tore off an abyssal's head in an instant.
i think that is even what our dear author was making a point off. all others who fell into priscilla's grip were torn apart, even if she was still in her human form. but this time around, the enemy broke her grip and threw her back. at the very least, it is powerful enough to fight her. and as i said, priscilla's power is currently in use by the destroyer, so it is not a matter of surpressed power.
Tbh i prefer the theory of mini-Riful being Riful and Dauf's daughter, it's more "tragic" and "romantic" imo.
I wonder if she'll become someone that can be reasoned with, it would be a real shame to have that character another "brainless" crazy strong monster, especially since she would be a weak shadow compared to the cunning Riful.
(thank god Chronos Octavia and some other new awakened seems to be smart! Power alone doesn't make a character interesting)
Power is meaningless if you don't use it properly.Quote:
Completely false, like i have already said, Isley seemed to have the upper hand in the beginning even against awakened Prissy.Quote:
Last edited by MalakTawus; November 29, 2012 at 08:14 PM.
Yes but Isley still could have killed her if he wanted to. But for some reason he just decided to use her power.Quote:
the awakened beigns coudl be used for that. all it would have taken is for yagi to have them hold on a little while longer.
and actually priscilla is not in control. the destroyer is. as a willess, instinctual creature, it has the advantage here. it does not surpress her power, as it is utilizing her powers right now, but it can both surpress her will and fight without losing focus, as it does not focus but just acts.
i think yagi has shown that, at least, this is no mere distraction that priscilla can just tear through. it showed it by the new creature simply breaking free of the destroyer priscilla and throwing her. look back at all those other creatures. the moment she managed to hit them or touch them, it was fatal. she tore off the head of abyssal one. however, here, not only was the grip broken, priscilla, if her body in control of the destroyer, was thrown back. douf was tissue paper at priscilla's grasp, and the twins were taken apart like action figures. this thing just fucking threw the one who tore through abyssal ones.
What's funny is that if the destroyer is really the one in control than it's actually even more of a reason that i am right since the destroyer was NEVER any good to use its immense power properly,lol.Quote:
Last edited by MalakTawus; November 29, 2012 at 08:25 PM.
actually it was true even then. he had no chance. the moment he made physical contact with priscilla, she ripped his entire arm off, the very one she was impaled on even. we are talking about what may have been the most powerful of the abyssal ones too. this was shown in an extra chapter showing how prissy and him met. he managed to manipulate her, but if they had continued, he would have been destroyed.
at that point the power that could not wield itself properly had the total advantage.
the destroyer itself is at the advantage becuase it is, all in all, pure power driven by primitive impulses. it can focus on both fighting and surpressing priscilla because of this. that fact it was the product of two beings merging may also help in this.