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View Poll Results: Who Wins?

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  • Crocodile

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  • Rob Lucci

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Thread: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

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    First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    1st ROUND
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    looks like the entrance to hell
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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Oh, another tough one. But yeah, if Luffy could beat him back then, Lucci could as well.

    They probably both became stronger during 2 years and the only question is - Who progressed more?

    But since we can only speculate, I give this one to Lucci.

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Judging our Marineford performance of the greatest hurracane Sandy-man. It should be a tough fight if Rucchi figures his weakness, but still will be close combat so Sir Crocodile got my vote

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Goddammit! Why must two of my other favorites face off against each other? Hmm, I don't know. I'm just going to hang around and look at the arguments presented and add my two cents where ever needed.

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Well, I assume that Lucci is smart...but you need to be creative in order to find out about watering Croco. And He is still a Logia, which give him a plus.

    I'm biased here >_>
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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Lucci is the top CP9 member, no doubt he knows much about the shichibukai, Luffy fought him to the near death state, plus Crocodile seems to be an easier opponent to Luffy than Lucci, considering how much he struggled with both, at least that is my opinion. Once Lucci gets a hold of water it is over for Croc, Lucci will go Leopard, rokushiki, raw power berserk on him!

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Thing about Crocodile though is water isn't a guaranteed win. He will lose his intangibility, but he still has his physical strength, his hook, and his right hand, that should absorb the moisture.

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Crocodile ofc, do I need to explain more ? Check my avatar

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    uuff, tough one.. Hmm, Crocodile lost to Luffy because he was arrogant and underestimated Luffy.. He's much stronger than Alabasta-Luffy back then.
    But Rob Lucci is a Top CP9 agent..
    I guess Croco wins because of his Logia powers and poison hook.
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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    But neither his poison hook nor his logia was enough to win against Luffy. And Luffy with gears barely defeated Lucci. Crocodile is one of my favourites too, but I can't help but feel that some of you guys are not seeing this clearly.

    It's true that Crocodile would have a chance against almost anyone, but I don't see what is it that makes Luffy so much stronger than Lucci here? What if WG found out about Crocodile's plans and sent CP9 to Alabasta? You think Crocodile would win?

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Lucci has not shown haki. It depends on the environment: if there is water in the vicinity and Lucci actually figuring this out, only then can he actually hit Crocoboy. My vote goes to our former Shichibukai.

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    We haven't seen Lucci use haki, therefore we can assume he doesn't (as a top CP9 agent, and not a novice at that, if he didn't use haki back then, we can assume he didn't intend to learn it anyway).

    So if he doesn't figure out Croc's weakness, the outcome is obvious.

    But even if he does, Croc's Marineford performance should give him the win. On the other hand, we haven't seen anything new from Lucci since EL events.
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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Basicallly this depends on Lucci's ability to notice Croco's weakness... Which is not obvious, well he's smarter than Luffy I guess, but it was pure coincidence that Luffy managed to notice it, sheer luck, that isn't something that would happen in every fight

    And once Lucci would get touched by Croco's right hand he's doomed...

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Well, Lucci is supposed to have WG intelligence info on his disposal. Maybe he even knows Croco's weakness. Even if it wasn't for that, he's pretty smart. It didn't take him long to notice how Luffy's Gear 2 works and what it's weakness is. Compared to that, water > sand seems like elementary school.

    As I said right away, Croc would have a chance against almost anyone but can't go against what we've seen. Hell I'd even like it if Croc came back to story, stronger than ever.

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    Re: First Round! 34] Crocodile vs Rob Lucci

    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    But neither his poison hook nor his logia was enough to win against Luffy. And Luffy with gears barely defeated Lucci. Crocodile is one of my favourites too, but I can't help but feel that some of you guys are not seeing this clearly.

    It's true that Crocodile would have a chance against almost anyone, but I don't see what is it that makes Luffy so much stronger than Lucci here? What if WG found out about Crocodile's plans and sent CP9 to Alabasta? You think Crocodile would win?
    TBH, his Logia and Hook were enough. The logia had Luffy easily beaten the first two times they fought and they technically tied the last fight. Had it not been for luck and Robin, Luffy would have lost every single one of those fight. He would be dead and Crocoboy would have just been arrested.

    Luffy with gears barely won against Lucci, but Luffy without gears was outclassed in every way by Crocodile. They weren't even until Luffy used his blood.

    As for sending CP9 to Alabasta, it is highly probable he would have won. They would be in his environment, so he would have had an infinite amount resources to fuel his power even more.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0Xellos View Post
    We haven't seen Lucci use haki, therefore we can assume he doesn't (as a top CP9 agent, and not a novice at that, if he didn't use haki back then, we can assume he didn't intend to learn it anyway).

    So if he doesn't figure out Croc's weakness, the outcome is obvious.

    But even if he does, Croc's Marineford performance should give him the win. On the other hand, we haven't seen anything new from Lucci since EL events.
    I don't think he needs haki. I think he could spam Soru, Tekkai, and Rokugan. Rokugan should in theory be able to harm Crocodile. Lucci is a master of Rokushiki, so he should have enough mobility to be able to dodge Crocodile's Sables. Even if he doesn't, Tekkai should protect him from a majority of the damage. Tekkai would probably be null against the right hand though and the offensive Rokushiki moves would be null as well as Crocodile's fruit is connected to his reflexes.

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