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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    If you're kakashi, are you going to hit your long lost bff/your friend who came back from the dead/the one who give you the sharingan/the one who sacrificed his life for your sake with your raikiri? He wants to hear his story. He wants to know the truth about obito's revival. So giving him a punch is enough, for now.
    He's trying to conquer the planet. Kakashi is an assassin, one of the best there has ever been, he should have killed him this makes no sense. He was ready to kill Sasuke I fail to see why Obito should be given any lee-way considering he is personally responsible for Minato and Kushina's deaths.
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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood
    What you clearly don't understand is that Naruto's maximum speed is done by shunshin, and no one except Raikages fight using shunshin to move around.
    Call it plot or whatever, but no one exploited it more than once or twice in a single battle.

    That's why you'll have Obito binding a charging Naruto ( by the way, how is that a feat if it was useless against Naruto, despite Mokuton's draining powers? ), or Jinchuurikis hitting Naruto despite not being nearly as fast as Raikage.
    Because, again, movement speed =/= shunshin speed.
    This isn't dragonball, where every movement is a fast one

    Dude. Seriously. I use this EXACT argument everytime there's a Naruto fight in the arena threads, lol. You haven't noticed? From now on, I better see this same logic in future replies over there or I'm calling shenanigans.
    Last edited by ninjabot; November 15, 2012 at 08:53 PM.

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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Use Rinnegan's power? Or hell, why not just toss both bijuu in Gedo's mouth, like he did with the pot and tentacle? With his Sharingan, he should be able to free the bijuu and control them.
    The Biju are not the small parts that got sealed. Not to mention Tobi has shown that he isn't capable of fighting, Naruto, Bee, Gai, and Kakashi at the same time. Not to mention all the Kages. He'd get curb stomped.
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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjabot View Post
    There are some ways that it could work, and though I doubt you'll accept any of them as realistic options, I'll give the example I like the most.

    Remember, whenever the kunai, the Rasengan that hit Obito, the clone that broke his mask, and Kakashi when he just recently punched him in the stomach and face? What do all of these instances have in common?

    When Obito absorbed someone or went intangible, he always stayed in the exact same area. And if you consider Kamuiville as the different side of the same coin, then it means after transporting something from Point A on side one, it appears at Point A on side 2.

    A B C D
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    a b c d

    Top is normal world, bottom is inside Kamui. If he absorbs Torune at A, and then uses the intangibility, but only after moving someways away to say... c, then the part that goes intangible will be far enough that Torune can't hit him.

    There's also one outrageously obvious reason that's more likely: You're blowing things waaaaay outta proportion. Obito only transports a portion of his body away when using his intangibility, unless an attack is so big it covers his entire body. Niether Fuu nor Torune had a chance to injure Obito during the fight prior to Danzou vs. Sasuke. You know how long It was before Sasuke was done with his fight? Obito didn't use his teleportation again till far later (after the fight). Both Fuu and Torune was probably running around screaming bloody murder in an attempt to escape so, by the time he returned to the alternate dimension, they were in no position to take advantage of the sense of surprise because they were so far away.
    Or obito can absorbed anyone and throw them anywhere he wants to his dimension. And it goes the same to his intangible, he can placed his body parts anywhere he wants to his dimension.

    http://m.mangastream.com/mobile/read...id/86022516/14

    Kakashi is obviously looking for obito's body parts in that dimension. And if obito is really stayed in the same area when absorbing and when he make himself intangible, kakashi would definitely said it. Because that would be obito's weakness.

    From what kakashi said, if you know the trick behind obito's intangible, formulating an effective attack is a child's play.

    How come he said that kind of statement if obito's body parts stayed in the same area or position when he absorbed kakashi?

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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Because where he's positioned has nothing to do with the "the trick". The trick is having one person in his alternate dimension while the other is in the real world, so when Obito turns intangible they can find his "pieces" and hit them. And just like I said, Obito didn't change the position he was standing in whenever he absorbed Kakashi. Meaning when he turned intangible, he would still be standing immediately infront of Kakashi.

    Had he run to the side first, and used intangiblility, he would've appeared further away and Kakashi would've walked right over to deliver his attacks.
    Last edited by ninjabot; November 15, 2012 at 09:07 PM.

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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbi View Post
    He's trying to conquer the planet. Kakashi is an assassin, one of the best there has ever been, he should have killed him this makes no sense. He was ready to kill Sasuke I fail to see why Obito should be given any lee-way considering he is personally responsible for Minato and Kushina's deaths.
    Maybe you're right. But still, kakashi right now is still can't believed that obito's still alive. He wants to know the truth on why obito had a connection to madara. Kakashi must already realized that he's somehow responsible for obito's conquering the world plan. He killed rin so he must want obito to learn the truth behind that incident. Or maybe, this is what kishi wants. He had some plan on obito and kakashi.

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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    i like seeing sasuke better now.
    naruto is all acting cocky, but i bed if he was fighting with hes power and skill. he will be serious and not joking.

    sasuke attack like crazy but with precaution. and serious cause it suppose to be a fight were you suppose to die if they hit you with something they do.

    naruto is all chilling cause he got the 9 tail fox by hes side. hes all acting cocky, hey im going to beat you=with the fox power. why dont you beat him with your own power. why dont he act like main character who having hard time fighting to make fans believe your win. but hes acting like hes taking a test and the teacher giving you the answer.
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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbi View Post
    The Biju are not the small parts that got sealed. Not to mention Tobi has shown that he isn't capable of fighting, Naruto, Bee, Gai, and Kakashi at the same time. Not to mention all the Kages. He'd get curb stomped.
    Huh?

    Tobi has shown he can survive long enough though. It's weird because Tobi has Mokuton, although he might be lower than Yamato in terms of skills. Not sure if he'd get curbstomped without Kakashi or Tsuchikage though, as no one has shown to be fast enough to hit him. Even Raikage back then couldn't touch him.
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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjabot View Post
    Because where he's positioned has nothing to do with the "the trick". The trick is having one person in his alternate dimension while the other is in the real world, so when Obito turns intangible they can find his "pieces" and hit them. And just like I said, Obito didn't change the position he was standing in whenever he absorbed Kakashi. Meaning when he turned intangible, he would still be standing immediately infront of Kakashi.

    Had he run to the side first, and used intangiblility, he would've appeared further away and Kakashi would've walked right over to deliver his attacks.
    It doesn't make any sense at all. If that is the case, why would he bother to absorb kakashi to his dimension if he can hit/stab him while he's fighting naruto in the real world?

    Well, my opinion is, he can send anyone or his body parts anywhere he wants to his dimension.

    Ex. He send/absorbed kakashi to his dimension and placed him on site a. Then when he's fighting naruto in the real world, he intangible his body and send his body parts on site b or c.

    Meaning, he can choose the place/location on his intangible trick and absorbing someone on his own will.

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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Huh?

    Tobi has shown he can survive long enough though. It's weird because Tobi has Mokuton, although he might be lower than Yamato in terms of skills. Not sure if he'd get curbstomped without Kakashi or Tsuchikage though, as no one has shown to be fast enough to hit him. Even Raikage back then couldn't touch him.
    Tobi has had the benefit of having all the Edo's, Jinchuriki, and Madara fight for him before he even got to lay a finger on anyone, and thus far he's been getting his ass handed him once Kakashi figured out how to hurt him. If he had to fight everyone present plus the Kages he'd be dead in minutes.

    He can't fight 4 or 5 Kage level ninja by himself, he'd be forced to retreat or he'd die.
    Last edited by Delbi; November 15, 2012 at 10:14 PM.
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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by enmymiguel View Post
    i like seeing sasuke better now.
    naruto is all acting cocky, but i bed if he was fighting with hes power and skill. he will be serious and not joking.

    sasuke attack like crazy but with precaution. and serious cause it suppose to be a fight were you suppose to die if they hit you with something they do.

    naruto is all chilling cause he got the 9 tail fox by hes side. hes all acting cocky, hey im going to beat you=with the fox power. why dont you beat him with your own power. why dont he act like main character who having hard time fighting to make fans believe your win. but hes acting like hes taking a test and the teacher giving you the answer.
    The fight is far from over and Madara doesn't seem worried on the slightest. Believe me, Naruot will need more help them just Bee, kakashi, and Gai to defeat Madara, Obito, and the 10 tails.

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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    Shisui was never said to have Susanoo, and Itachi was surprise that Sasuke could use Susanoo aswell.
    Nor the manga said that he doesn't have it either.

    Obito said that the susanoo is rare even to the uchiha clan. Why? Because the MS itself is very rare.

    But sasuke just said that those who awaken their 2 MS can awaken the third power, which is the susanoo. Well, I don't know where the hell did he learned that info, but with that, it's safe to assume that those who had a pair of MS had a susanoo.

    So if obito had his set of MS, he can also use his susanoo.

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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbi View Post
    Tobi has had the benefit of having all the Edo's, Jinchuriki, and Madara fight for him before he even got to lay a finger on anyone, and thus far he's been getting his ass handed him once Kakashi figured out how to hurt him. If he had to fight everyone present plus the Kages he'd be dead in minutes.

    He can't fight 4 or 5 Kage level ninja by himself, he'd be forced to retreat or he'd die.
    That's only because Kishi decided to retcon Rinnegan away from him. Had Tobi used Rinnegan constantly, he'd have done so much better. He wouldn't have needed to phase thanks to Shinra Tensei and ability to absorb chakra. Hell, nothing would have stopped Tobi from using Bansho Tenin and absorbing everyone's chakra. It's just plot that's stopping him from owning everyone.

    Pre-Rinnegan Tobi would probably lose against such combo though. Rinnegan Tobi in no way should lose at all.
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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    The fight is far from over and Madara doesn't seem worried on the slightest. Believe me, Naruot will need more help them just Bee, kakashi, and Gai to defeat Madara, Obito, and the 10 tails.
    Yeah. And the kyubi himself doesn't seem worried if madara can summon the juubi or not. In fact, the kyubi is just waiting for the juubi to awaken before he'll get serious with his business with madara.

    The kyubi even looked like he's bored with their fight with obito. He was there lying around like a cute little puppy waiting for madara to make his move.

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    Re: Naruto 609 Discussion/ 610 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Not really, considering everyone got revived in the end anyway. Jiraiya's death was before the invasion, which gave Naruto enough time to deal with the grief and shock.
    Barring the end, it did a good job of showing Naruto the horrors of war and forcing him to face lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
    No - he really didn't, and no it really wasn't. Obito soloed Fuu/Torune. Fine. Doesn't explain in any way why they didn't clobber him the 6 or 7 different times he phased after he absorbed them like Kakashi just did. You either have to assume Fuu/Torune...

    (A) were so stupid they wouldn't attack their enemy when they saw his body parts dangling like ripe fruit in front of them...
    (B) were instantly genjutsued by Obito who has never used that power on anyone else before or since (when Torune was facing the opposite direction to boot!)...
    (C) were dumped in a 'safe' area of the dimension so Obito could ignore them - again begging the question WHY has Obito never done this with anyone else before or since...

    Neither answered NOR making sense.
    Pretty sure already pointed out how: When Tobi absorbed Fuu, there was a scene change and the next time we saw him was in his dimension talking to Sasuke and Karin. So it's not farfetch to simply assume he genjutsu'd Fuu and Torune before going to talk with Sasuke. And as mentioned, the only time Obito has warped something close to him was the most recent incident. all the others that came close to him were done by Kakashi. Now considering Kakashi was exhausted as far as he knew and last time Kakashi was warped in he did nothing but sulk, Obito assuming nothing would happen this time is more of an example of his arrogance then a plothole.

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